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A selection of articles, new or otherwise interesting

- Sarah Fischer, a soprano who sang excerpts from the title role in Carmen for the first televised BBC broadcast of opera music
- Eike Wilm Schulte, a baritone based at the Hessisches Staatstheater Wiesbaden and the Bavarian State Opera who appeared as Beckmesser at the Met and to celebrate 50 years on stage
- Jean Bonhomme, a Canadian tenor who played for seven years on his university's Canadian football team before becoming a tenor at the Royal Opera House
- Benita Valente, Pamina and Gilda at the Metropolitan Opera, who performed with the Juilliard String Quartet
- Roberta Alexander, an American soprano who studied in Amsterdam and performed Mozart roles such as Elettra and Elvira, and Gershwin's Maria with Nikolaus Harnoncourt
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[edit]Note Do not archive this section. Voceditenore (talk) 10:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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Voceditenore (talk) 10:53, 10 January 2013 (UTC) Updated by Voceditenore (talk) 07:57, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Opera articles: Recordings - which to exclude?
[edit]Note Do not archive this section. Voceditenore (talk) 10:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
As there has been no further discussion on this since early December 2010, I've archived this here. But this is a topic we may want to revisit at some point, re expanding/clarifying the current article guidelines. Voceditenore (talk) 08:37, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- The latest discussion (January 2014) is archived here. – Voceditenore (talk) 09:12, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Requested opera templates
[edit]Note Do not archive this section. Voceditenore (talk) 10:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Archived at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 120. Voceditenore (talk) 09:46, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Place new requests here. Voceditenore (talk) 10:29, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Almanacco Amadeus – Che disastro!
[edit]Note Do not archive this section. Voceditenore (talk) 10:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
It's disappeared again. All links now redirect to this site. I'm keeping an eye out to see if the almanacco re-surfaces, but so far it's nowhere to be found on the new site. Grrrr! Voceditenore (talk) 15:49, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
- It's finally available again: almanac-gherardo-casaglia.com. --Rodomonte (talk) 22:16, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
- I attempted to adapt Template:Almanacco to the new URL and its parameters; it seems to work. Lamentably, I discovered only later that Rodomonte had already modified de:Vorlage:Almanacco similarly – that template hadn't been linked to the EN template via interwiki links (now corrected). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for that, Rodomonte and Michael! Not only for the good news but for fixing the template too. Brilliant! Voceditenore (talk) 16:16, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Many new illustrations from Ricordi now available
[edit]As part of the GLAM project with the Ricordi Archive, the most important historical archive in Italy about music, we have just uploaded hundreds of new quality images: photos and portraits of musicians, sketches, drawings, illustrations of operas. Many Wikipedia articles will finally have an illustration! You can find all images in Commons:Category:Media from Archivio Storico Ricordi (here divided by category). Thank you in advance. --Marco Chemello (WMIT) (talk) 16:51, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thank YOU, Marco. What a treasure trove! Voceditenore (talk) 17:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Looks great and promising! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, many thanks for all these great images! Have added some of them to articles already.Smeat75 (talk) 20:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Marco Chemello (WMIT): Are there any images the Ricordi Archive would like a restoration done of? I'd be delighted to do a few in thanks. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 04:16, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- In the meantime, File:Giacomo Puccini (1924) - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO003293 - Restoration.jpg. Would have liked more resolution on that - featured pictures generally require 1500px on the smallest side, though that one's close enough it might slip through - but I've been wanting us to have a good pic of Puccini for years, and am glad this lets that happen. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 07:33, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Dear @Adam Cuerden:, thank you for your interest and for your work! Most images requiring restoration are in the portraits, but the resolution is not high. We uploaded higher resolution images in the Costume designs and Set designs categories, see if you find some interesting for you. --Marco Chemello (WMIT) (talk) 08:07, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- I've loaded up my favourite dozen into my to-do list. Probably going to start with File:Gabrielle Ray (c. 1910) - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO002691.jpg. I don't suppose you could beg them for a high-resolution image related to the Ricordis? File:Giacomo Puccini, Tito II Ricordi, André Charles Messager - Archivio Storico Ricordi FOTO000883.jpg looks like a decent choice. Although I'll also be doing File:Maria Carrara Verdi, Barberina Strepponi, Giuseppe Verdi, Giuditta Ricordi, Teresa Stolz, Umberto Campanari, Giulio Ricordi, Leopoldo Metlicovitz (1900) - Archivio storico Ricordi FOTO003107.jpg Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 02:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Dear @Adam Cuerden:, thank you. I'm asking Ricordi for some hi-res images, but it may require some time. Consider also some other group image like File:Gerolamo Rovetta, Marco Praga, Giannino Antona Traversi, Augusto Novelli, Domenico Oliva, Renato Simoni, Sabatino Lopez (1907) - Archivio storico Ricordi FOTO002705.jpg (some of them already used in articles). --Marco Chemello (WMIT) (talk) 08:17, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- I shall be working through as many as I can manage. Just would feel odd to me to get this wonderful release and not do a restoration to celebrate what made the archive, y'know? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.5% of all FPs 09:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Completed restorations. (
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Madama Butterfly, act 1 -
La Wally, act 1 costume for Wally. -
Tannhäuser, act 3 -
Edgar (didn't need restoration) -
Seated: Maria Carrara Verdi, Barberina Strepponi, Giuseppe Verdi, and Giuditta Ricordi. Standing: Teresa Stolz, Umberto Campanari, Giulio Ricordi, and Leopoldo Metlicovitz -
I vespri siciliani, act 5
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Ciro Pinsuti (Much too small to be featured, but that mark on his nose annoyed me)
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A basso porto (didn't need resyoration) -
La bohème, act 2 set design
From these treasures, do we have something about operas by Rossini - Pacini - Respighi? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
I think Rossini and Pacini are a little early. There was a Belfagorimage, but it was a mislabelled Il Piccolo do Haydn. We can hope the real Belfagor is uploaded in the next batch. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 17:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
- Belfagor is on the list for next. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs
Requested move at Talk:Giovanni Matteo Mario#Requested move 5 July 2025
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Giovanni Matteo Mario#Requested move 5 July 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 11:23, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay
[edit]Is anyone writing/preparing an article on this opera? - kosboot (talk) 01:58, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
Is this project inclusive of rock opera?
[edit]I have been updating pages about The Protomen who perform rock opera, so I noticed the rock opera page does not have the WikiProject Opera template on the talk page, which leads me to think this project is not inclusive of rock opera, but figured I would ask to clarify. Pingnova (talk) 05:57, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- There were some discussions here a long time ago (June 2006 and May 2012) about that, and the consensus was then that rock operas (and rap operas by extension) are not in this project's scope. I doubt whether a new discussion would come to a different conclusion. I would argue against it. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:18, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- The same goes for soap operas, I assume? Keriluamox (talk) 06:36, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- OK! I'm not intending to introduce a change in scope, just clarifying. Thanks for elaborating! Pingnova (talk) 06:48, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Pingnova: Rock operas that are concept albums, like The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars, don't fall under any theatre oriented projects because they don't involve live staged performance. These albums fall under WP:WikiProject Rock music and Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums Some rock operas have become staged works with costumes and sets in theaters, and because of this they do fall under theatre oriented projects. Because the genre of music is not classical/opera (which usually does all its performances without the aid of microphone amplification of singers or electronic instruments), but rock, those types of works (like Jesus Christ Superstar and The Who's Tommy) are considered musical theatre not opera. They would fit under Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
AFD
[edit]Project members may wish to comment at this discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theater im Rathaus. Help locating sources in German if they exist would be appreciated. Best.4meter4 (talk) 22:08, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Creating a vital article
[edit]Pinging some longtime project members; @Sparafucil:, @Antandrus:, @Gerda Arendt:, @Kosboot:, @Figaro:, @Nikkimaria:, @Voceditenore: Any other project members or guests are welcome to comment as well. Also pinging Ssilvers, Adam Cuerden, Tim riley and Michael Bednarek who are not currently listed as members at Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Members but have long been valuable content creators and editors in this area (please join or rejoin our project anytime). I've decided to finally take on a monumental task that has been a long glaring omission for our project, which is to write an article at opera singer (currently a redirect to opera). My idea is to write a history of how opera singing became a profession and how that profession has changed over time; and of course giving a general description of what a career as an opera singer currently entails. I'm source gathering at the moment, and would appreciate any suggestions for materials I should look at, and incorporate into the text. I am going to write it in one of my sandboxes and I'll probably come back here for a peer review before publishing to article space. I'm at the very beginning of the thought process here so it will be some time before I am ready for peer review. Given that this is a core concept page, I thought it best to get input throughout article building. I am listing sources below I am already planning on using. Feel free to add to my list, and I will read through additions. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- The article on singing will likely cite some helpful sources. Also musician, vocal pedagogy, music school, history of opera and origins of opera. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:35, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Bravo for undertaking a formidable task. From the 18th century on, there are plenty of sources that deal with opera singers. To my mind the challenge is finding the sources that identify the emergence of "opera singer" as a separate topic. I know there are a few pre-16th century sources that indicate singers' indulgence in their craft (in both secular and religious music) and I would think these are the beginnings of "opera singers." It might also be useful to examine librettos of early operas to see when they start indicating who are the singers undertaking particular roles. (EEBO - Early English Books Online would be helpful). Pre-18th century singing treatises might also be useful. Certainly Burney talks a lot about singers. It also makes me wonder who is the first singer to write an autobiography. I'm thinking of Michael Kelly's 1826 book but there must be autobiographies prior to his. In any case, kudos for beginning the ascent of a very large mountain. - kosboot (talk) kosboot (talk) 21:06, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Roselli's journal articles document the emergence/ development of the profession in Italy which is what got me thinking about the need for this article. Obviously each country/theatre has its own unique history, and ideally the article will have a global perspective. I'm sure that there are other scholarly works out there addressing this. I hope to find some coverage on the professionalization of opera singers in Germany, France, England, etc. Part of the reason I brought this here is because some might already be familiar with the literature, and it would save me time in the source gathering end.4meter4 (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- A little hunting around points to Pier Francesco Tosi's Opinioni de’ cantori antichi e moderni (1723) as being the (or among the) first singing treatises (in English on IMSLP): https://imslp.org/wiki/Opinioni_de%E2%80%99_cantori_antichi_e_moderni_(Tosi%2C_Pier_Francesco) kosboot (talk) 00:03, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry I'm doing your work. Here's an abbreviated passage from the Tosi article in Grove:
- kosboot (talk) 00:08, 10 November 2025 (UTC)...Opera for him was only one of three types of singing (along with church and chamber) for students to master. ... With this went a polemic in favour of expressive pathos and against new-fangled display, but Tosi avoided identifying any eminent singers with either the ‘old’ or the ‘new’; he shared in a ‘general compromise by which singers and composers presided over the development of musical trends and tastes which were rejected in theory as much as they were pursued in practice’ (Durante).
- Sorry I'm doing your work. Here's an abbreviated passage from the Tosi article in Grove:
- A little hunting around points to Pier Francesco Tosi's Opinioni de’ cantori antichi e moderni (1723) as being the (or among the) first singing treatises (in English on IMSLP): https://imslp.org/wiki/Opinioni_de%E2%80%99_cantori_antichi_e_moderni_(Tosi%2C_Pier_Francesco) kosboot (talk) 00:03, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Roselli's journal articles document the emergence/ development of the profession in Italy which is what got me thinking about the need for this article. Obviously each country/theatre has its own unique history, and ideally the article will have a global perspective. I'm sure that there are other scholarly works out there addressing this. I hope to find some coverage on the professionalization of opera singers in Germany, France, England, etc. Part of the reason I brought this here is because some might already be familiar with the literature, and it would save me time in the source gathering end.4meter4 (talk) 22:36, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Bravo for undertaking a formidable task. From the 18th century on, there are plenty of sources that deal with opera singers. To my mind the challenge is finding the sources that identify the emergence of "opera singer" as a separate topic. I know there are a few pre-16th century sources that indicate singers' indulgence in their craft (in both secular and religious music) and I would think these are the beginnings of "opera singers." It might also be useful to examine librettos of early operas to see when they start indicating who are the singers undertaking particular roles. (EEBO - Early English Books Online would be helpful). Pre-18th century singing treatises might also be useful. Certainly Burney talks a lot about singers. It also makes me wonder who is the first singer to write an autobiography. I'm thinking of Michael Kelly's 1826 book but there must be autobiographies prior to his. In any case, kudos for beginning the ascent of a very large mountain. - kosboot (talk) kosboot (talk) 21:06, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
Potential sources
[edit]- Brown, Howard Mayer; Rosand, Ellen; Strohm, Reinhard; Noiray, Michel; Parker, Roger; Whittall, Arnold; Savage, Roger; Millington, Barry (2002). "Opera(i) (It., from Lat. opera, plural of opus: 'work'; Fr. opéra; Ger. Oper);". Grove Music Online. Oxford Music Online. Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.article.40726. ISBN 9781561592630.
- Constantine, Martin (2019). The Opera Singer's Acting Toolkit: An Essential Guide to Creating A Role. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9781350006485.
- Friedlander, Claudia (2019). The Singer's Audition & Career Handbook. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9798765176849.
- Hannan, Michael (2003). The Australian Guide to Careers in Music. NewSouth Publishing. ISBN 9780868405100.
- McGinnis, Pearl Yeadon (2010). The Opera Singer's Career Guide: Understanding the European Fach System. Scarecrow Press. ISBN 9780810869165.
- Roselli, John (March 1989). "From Princely Service to the Open Market: Singers of Italian Opera and Their Patrons, 1600-1850". Cambridge Opera Journal. 1 (1): 1-32.
- Roselli, John (May 1988). "The Castrati as a Professional Group and a Social Phenomenon, 1550-1850". Acta Musicologica. 60 (2): 143-179.
- Sansom, Rockford, ed. (2020). The History of Voice Pedagogy: Multidisciplinary Reflections on Training. Taylor & Francis. ISBN 9781000439038.
- Vlado Kotnik (December 2016). "The Idea of Prima Donna: the History of a Very Special Opera's Institution". International Review of the Aesthetics and Sociology of Music. 47 (2): 237-287.
- Stark, James (1999). Bel Canto: A History of Vocal Pedagogy. University of Toronto Press. ISBN 9780802086143.
4meter4 (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- The Opera bibliography has a long list of potential additional sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:24, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
Membership roll - Update and possible addition of an emeritus section
[edit]I went through and updated our membership roll at Wikipedia:WikiProject Opera/Members. I was wondering if we might want to honor some past members as "members emeritus" who were excellent contributors to our project in the past. User:Viva-Verdi, User:GuillaumeTell, User:Folantin, and User:Moreschi come to mind (other suggestions are welcome). User:Voceditenore still checks in every Christmas but has not been active in some time and might also be honored with this acknowledgement. Thoughts?4meter4 (talk) 21:21, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Kleinzach as well. - kosboot (talk) 21:12, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
Articel about tenor Gaston Rivero needs watchers
[edit]If anyone is still reading this and more awake than I am: The article about Gaston Rivero desperately needs a review and watchers. It contains an absurdly long table with all his performances since he began singing. I spent all night trying to make something coherent out of the usable sources. Some fan, agent, or Rivero himself is currently adding more poorly formatted sources, and I don't think I can keep cleaning up after them much longer. ~2025-32357-42 (talk) 12:37, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for article work and raising attention. I commented out that ridiculous table. Not even Maria Callas has a table of all performances. The "laundry list" of famous places is also terrible without roles and people (singers, conductors, directors). You notice that it is translated from Spanish by roles names. The famous places often have no cities attached. I tried to reduce redundancy, such as that the Israel National Opera is in Israel. I have no more time for the rest of the day, though, and watchful eyes are welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
The article Duet has a list of "famous operatic duets", but it just lists the titles of operas and their composers. Examples:
- La clemenza di Tito by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
- La Cenerentola by Gioachino Rossini
It doesn't indicate what are the vocal duets within those operas so that people who are looking for the famous duets can identify them. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:09, 12 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Metropolitan90: I added in the names of duets.4meter4 (talk) 17:57, 12 November 2025 (UTC)