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[edit]- Nominator(s): Newbzy (talk) 08:24, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
I'm nominating this article as it has now undergone a major overhaul by me.
I went through this article and extensively copyedited it, fixing spelling, grammar, punctuation and tone. The next biggest thing I focussed on was stopping names and job titles from being needlessly repeated, for example changing 'President Trump' to simply 'Trump' once the title was introduced (same for Mike Pence). For other people given a job title, I've made it so that their full name is introduced first, then after that their last name is only used. MOS:JOBTITLES was observed, and I've decapitalised titles where necessary.
For Wikilinking, I've ensured that the first instance of something is the only time it is linked, and any subsequent mentions of it are not. In terms of information, every dot point is sourced, with many being supported by multiple citations. There are only two days (Sunday, March 12 and Saturday, March 25) that do not have any events listed. This page is relatively stable; it hasn't been through any recent major edits before mine, though it did go through a couple of name changes earlier in the year.
I'm hoping this can pass the featured list criteria following my edits. Thank you in advance to those who choose to review this! Newbzy (talk) 08:24, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
Olliefant
[edit]- Lead is way to short
- Everything after the lead sentence could be moved to "See also"
- The "Economy and employment" image is missing a caption, a source, and alt text
- Expand the "Public opinion" section
- "[45th] [president of the United States]" and "[48th] [vice president]" are both MOS:SEAOFBLUE violations
- Clarify that Trump and Pence took different oaths of office
- Also Pence should be before Trump as the Veep is sworn in before the President
- Under "Tuesday, February 14", "[Governor of New Jersey] [Chris Christie]" is a SEAOFBLUE violation, there is likely more like this on the page.
- Under "Friday, February 24", why is the NYT before the others? Also why aren't CNN and BBC italicized?
- Under "Week 8" disambiguate "Democratic"
- Did nothing happen on "Sunday, March 12"?
- Under "Sunday, March 26", I'd link "American Israel Public Affairs Committee" instead of "(AIPAC)"
- Missing any content on the First presidential transition of Donald Trump
- That's what I found, ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 06:37, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]The lead does not fulfill its purpose of providing an overview of the article (it's literally just one sentence, which most likely violates WP:THISISALIST, and then a bunch of stuff which should be at the bottom under "see also"). But then you have an actual "overview" section to start off the body, which isn't an overview, because it only covers two very specific points......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): PresN 01:28, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Hey all, mammal list #63 in our perpetual series and rodent list #8: Ctenomyidae. This is our next list covering the Caviomorpha parvorder, aka "things shaped kinda like guinea pigs", with the tuco-tucos, which look like underground guinea pig-moles. So that checks out. 59 species down in the Southern Cone of South America, though due to their underground nature a lot are missing pictures—though the Talas tuco-tuco was photographed cruelly taken up into the sky and was quite upset about it. As always, the list reflects the scientific consensus as well as the results of prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 01:28, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- C. brasiliensis seems to be about 300mm in length according to [1].
- All images have alt-texts.
- I couldn't find any issue with the prose.
- Species table is generated via templates and follows accessibility criteria.
- Support on prose and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:19, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support - I have nothing to pick up on. But I love that photo! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:26, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Medxvo (talk) 17:38, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Challengers is a 2024 American sports film directed by Luca Guadagnino and written by Justin Kuritzkes. It follows a love triangle between three tennis players (Zendaya, Josh O'Connor, and Mike Faist), spanning 13 years of their relationship and leading to the match between the two men on the ATP Challenger Tour. The film was met with critical acclaim, garnering fifteen Astra nominations, six Dorian nominations, four Critics' Choice Movie nominations, and four Golden Globe nominations.
I believe the list is consistent with the recently promoted accolades lists and ready for an FLC. Any comments from all editors are very much appreciated. Medxvo (talk) 17:38, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Excellent work, the only thing I can suggest is changing "leading to the match between the two men on the ATP Challenger Tour" to "leading to a match between the two men on the ATP Challenger Tour" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Thanks so much! I've implemented your suggestion. Medxvo (talk) 08:59, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:20, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments and source review
[edit]- I'd add the Rotten Tomatoes critical consensus
- I believe this is more relevant for the film's own article. Most of the FA accolades lists only include the percentage (Barbie, Green Book, Little Women), so adding the critical consensus would be a bit unusual. Medxvo (talk) 07:56, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Astra awards is linked twice in paragraph 3
- Also the first Astra awards included the "the" as part of the link. None of the other awards do this
- Add a source to note g
- Why is "Next Best Picture" a reliable source?
- It seems reliable for information related to award ceremonies, which are mostly written by Matt Neglia. He is the website's editor-in-chief, a Critics' Choice Association member, and a reputable critic (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Staff writers are listed on the About page. It seems OK to me but let me know what you think. Medxvo (talk) 07:56, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Dates are consistent in sourcing
- Linking is consistent in sourcing
- Everything is archived
- Spot checks didn't turn up anything
- Pretty good ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 01:41, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Olliefant: Thanks a lot for the review. I believe all should be done, aside from the two comments above regarding RT consensus and Next Best Picture. Medxvo (talk) 07:56, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Shoot for the Stars (talk) 06:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the FL criteria. The list has reliable sources and I followed other FL articles. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 06:24, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments (ChrisTheDude)
[edit]- Lead image could probably be made larger, using the upright=1.[something] parameter
- "The Victorious cast [....] included songs" - the cast did not include songs
- "included songs recorded primarily performed by" - there's at least one word missing here
- "while others track appeared" - huh?
- "or on other editions" - other editions of what?
- There's no reason to have "!" and "&" in the TOC as they don't link to anywhere -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments (MPGuy2824)
[edit]- I think you can remove the whole TOC table completely. The table isn't that long.
- Since the table is sortable, you'll have to wikilink every instance of the album names. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:44, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments (Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars)
[edit]Due to the length and scope of both this list and List of songs in Victorious, I'm not sure criteria 3c is met. It's a very similar list of songs and the two could probably somehow be refined and merged together. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:14, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:57, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
This is the list of governors of Nigeria's state of Imo from when the region was called Eastern then split into East Central and two other states, then East Central was splitted into Anambra and Imo states. I have significantly worked on this and it now meets the criteria for FL. Feedback would be very much appreciated. Thank you already.
Pinging History6042 who reviewed and passed images checks in the previous nom which was archived for lack of participation of reviewers. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:57, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
MPGuy2824
[edit]- You'll need to use the upright param for the locator map image, instead of a pixel size (MOS:UPRIGHT).
- For the alt-text of the same map, don't describe what the image is; instead describe what the image shows. For this one it could be something like "Imo state is in the south of Nigeria".
I'll continue with a prose review soon-MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:16, 19 October 2025 (UTC)- @MPGuy2824 thanks! I used upright now. Re alt text, is the current one not describing what the image "shows"? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:33, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- My point was that the image is a "Map of Nigeria showing Imo State", but what you might have wanted a sighted person to notice is the relative location of the state within Nigeria. But, re-reading MOS:ALTMAP, it looks like "the colour, position, and size of elements are not important" for alt-text. @Easternsahara, since you pointed out this link to me, do you have thoughts on this? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that is what the alt text should be according to ALTMAP "Imo state is in southern Nigeria" or something similar. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:23, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:42, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes that is what the alt text should be according to ALTMAP "Imo state is in southern Nigeria" or something similar. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:23, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- My point was that the image is a "Map of Nigeria showing Imo State", but what you might have wanted a sighted person to notice is the relative location of the state within Nigeria. But, re-reading MOS:ALTMAP, it looks like "the colour, position, and size of elements are not important" for alt-text. @Easternsahara, since you pointed out this link to me, do you have thoughts on this? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 thanks! I used upright now. Re alt text, is the current one not describing what the image "shows"? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:33, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:01, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]In return for VVF's review on the Arab WHS list User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 23:50, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- File:Imo State Government.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0 No source, can you add a source that this is based off of (from website, image from official document, etc.) alt should be see caption
- File:Imo State Flag.svg - CC0 Alt should be see caption
- File:Nigeria - Imo.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Ndubuisi Kanu Portrait.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Admiral Adekunle Lawal.jpg - Fair use
- File:A portrait of Dr Samuel Mbakwe (Dee Sam).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Governor Rochas Okorocha (cropped).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Rt. Hon. Emeka Ihedioha (cropped).png - CC BY-SA 3.0
- Add birth and death date for Sunday Ajibade Adenihun which was 1939 and 2008
- @Easternsahara: Many thanks. Fixed alts. Source? The flag and insignia are clearly being used respectively in Imo State and related articles, see file pages. Adenihun's date of birth and death is unverifiable, no RS to confirm it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 05:34, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Pass image review User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 05:36, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Before 1976, the area lay within the Eastern Region. After the regional system was dissolved on 27 May 1967" - is one of those dates a typo?
- Whoops, good catch. It was supposed to be East Central State. Fixed. -VWF
- "However, following Nigeria’s first military coup in January 1966, the military abolished the regional system, dismissed civilian premiers, and appointed military administrators, with Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu governing the Eastern Region from January 1966 until its dissolution in May 1967" - if the region existed until 1967 then the regional system can't have been abolished in 1966
- Good catch again. Fixed. -VWF
- "Administrators were usually appointed to rule a state when there is" - the tenses of the two verbs don't agree
- Fixed. -VWF
- "as part of a nationwide restructuring executed by the military government of Murtala Mohammed" - almost identical wording appears in the previous section, there's no need to say it twice
- Yeah, removed. -VWF
- "who initially contested in the 2011 election" => "who initially contested the 2011 election"
- Fixed, with thanks. -VWF
- Because the "term in office" column isn't sortable, if you sort based on the governor's name then it's impossible to get the table back into date order
- I just tried it, and was able to get the sortation back to date order. -VWF
- How did you do that, given that the "term in office" column is unsortable.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:30, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude I clicked the Governor column three times, and by the third time, the table was back as it was originally. I’m I confused? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- I just tried it, and was able to get the sortation back to date order. -VWF
- That's what I got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude Replied, thank you so much for looking. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:15, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:48, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
This article is a different format than what I'm used to submitting. The Grand Prix of Figure Skating is a prestigious international series of seven competitions, and the current season actually started today with the 2025 Grand Prix de France. The tables identify the gold medalists for each competition each season. All of the results have been verified and sourced, the tables should be properly formatted, and the sources should be properly formatted. I look forward to your constructive feedback or suggestions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:48, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- MPGuy2824
- A bit weird to have an empty row at the end of every table, but the French results should come by tomorrow, so at least one of those cells will have data.
- Only background color should not be a way to highlight a particular cell. But, I think the footnote is enough to satisfy accessibility needs.
- I didn't find any problems with table accessibility.
- The flags automatically get alt-text from the template used. There is only one other image, the logo, and that has alt-text.
- Support on table and image accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- Yes, I only added the 2025 row because the 2025 series literally started yesterday. The women's and pairs results for France will be added today; men's and dance tomorrow. With the time difference from France, I've been watching the event all morning. 😃 Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:57, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "is a series of senior-level international figure skating competitions sanctioned by the International Skating Union, which debuted in 1995" - I would change this to "is a series of senior-level international figure skating competitions which debuted in 1995 and sanctioned by the International Skating Union" so it doesn't read like it was the ISU which debuted in 1995
- "as a replacement for the Bofrost Cup on Ice" - first mention in the body so link
- "as a replacement for the Cup of China" - same
- "It returned in 2022 as a replacement for the Rostelecom Cup" - same
- Why are some cells coloured green and blue? It's not clear and this is probably also an accessibility violation -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:33, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- I rephrased the beginning, because none of those events actually debuted in 1995. They were pre-existing competitions that were yoked together in one series beginning in 1995. Let me know what you think.
- I linked the competitions you mentioned except for Cup of China, which was mentioned prior.
- I added a color key to the tables, which admittedly I should have already done, but there is no accessibility violation because there is also a footnote in each cell.
- ChrisTheDude: Let me know if you have any other concerns. Thank you! Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:22, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:29, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Source review
[edit]- Why is "The Figure Skating Corner" a reliable source?
- Why is "Tracings" a reliable source?
- Why is "Skating Scores" a reliable source?
- All three are consistent, reliable sources vetted by the Figure Skating WikiProject.
- Every Skating Score source I checked was dead and needs to be marked as such
- There was some formatting issue with the URLs for all of the Skate Scores sources; they should be fixed now.
- Linking is consistent
- Dates are consistent except for one which I fixed
- Everything is archived
- Spot checks found nothing
- Thats what I found ping me when done Olliefant (she/her) 10:50, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
User:Olliefant: Thank you for taking the time the do this source review. Those Skating Scores URLs should now be fixed. Let me know if you find anything else. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:47, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:46, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
Now that Arkansas's nomination has gained some support, I'm here with Wyoming next. It's got relatively fewer representatives in Congress because of its low population, only sending one representative to the House for its entire history as a state. Other lists in this series include Utah, Indiana, Hawaii, Connecticut, Colorado, Idaho and Arizona. Thanks for all your feedback, as always; I'll try to implement it as soon as I can. Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:46, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- MPGuy2824
- I couldn't find any issues with the prose.
- Support on prose and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:47, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- P.S. The delegate table has its right border colored with the party color. This isn't there in the member table below that. See if you can make it consistent. The only obvious difference that I see between the two tables is that one has a sticky header. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:57, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @MPGuy2824, thanks for your review. I couldn't see the right border colored; does it still appear for you? Would it be possible for you to send a screenshot? Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:38, 16 October 2025 (UTC)

- See File:Screenshot from list "United States congressional delegations from Wyoming".jpg. I've included a part of the table below that which does not have the issue. I didn't see this problem on the mobile site. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:10, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- I see that phenomenon on the Senate table, but none of the House ones. Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:19, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @MPGuy2824 and @Bgsu98, I can't see this issue at all. Have you seen this kind of issue before, in other lists? If it matters, I'm on Firefox on Mac OS. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:55, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't noticed this problem before. Hopefully someone can figure it out and fix it, but it is a minor enough issue. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:45, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing it on the Senate table now. Go figure. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:06, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't noticed this problem before. Hopefully someone can figure it out and fix it, but it is a minor enough issue. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:45, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @MPGuy2824 and @Bgsu98, I can't see this issue at all. Have you seen this kind of issue before, in other lists? If it matters, I'm on Firefox on Mac OS. Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:55, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I see that phenomenon on the Senate table, but none of the House ones. Bgsu98 (Talk) 06:19, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- See File:Screenshot from list "United States congressional delegations from Wyoming".jpg. I've included a part of the table below that which does not have the issue. I didn't see this problem on the mobile site. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:10, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
Olliefant
[edit]- Why did Teno Roncalio resgin?
- Note J shouldn't list Chaney's first name for consistency
- Under "1890–present: 1 seat" Roncalio is listed as serving in the 95th Congress from 1977 through 1979. However, he did not serve in 1979 as he resigned in 1978. Additonally, add a EFN about his resignation for consistency
- That's all I found ping me when done Olliefant (she/her) 19:04, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Olliefant, thanks for your comments. I've made changes accordingly. I did not find a satisfactory reason for Roncalio's resignation other than that he wanted to retire from politics. If you'd like more nuance, I'd be happy to provide it here, but I don't think it fits in the article well. Let me know if there's something else you think I ought to change. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:35, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Staraction: I think its best to that, otherwise it leaves the reader wondering if their missing something. Either way Support Olliefant (she/her) 20:38, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Olliefant, thanks for your comments. I've made changes accordingly. I did not find a satisfactory reason for Roncalio's resignation other than that he wanted to retire from politics. If you'd like more nuance, I'd be happy to provide it here, but I don't think it fits in the article well. Let me know if there's something else you think I ought to change. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:35, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/15/25)
[edit]- Lead
- Recommend rephrasing "The last Democrat to have represented Wyoming in Congress..." with "The last Democrat to represent Wyoming in Congress..." for simplicity.
- United States Senate
- John Barrasso and Cynthia Lummis are each wikilinked twice. Dewikilink the second occurrences.
- United States House of Representatives
- You exclusively use digits to represent numbers in the Senate subsection, but spell out some number in the House subsection. Recommend picking one style to use consistently.
User:Staraction: Overall, very few suggestions. Please let me know when you have had a chance to examine my comments and let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:01, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bgsu98, thank you for your comments. I believe I've resolved everything you've pointed out. Please let me know if there's anything else you notice! Staraction (talk | contribs) 01:03, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- User:Staraction: Both sections still show a mixture of digits and numbers spelled out. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:33, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bgsu98, I've reverted my changes associated with that suggestion. MOS:SPELL09 states that numbers less than or equal to nine should be spelled out, and I've done that accordingly. Is there some spot I've missed where I am using numerals for those numbers? Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 01:45, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Not anymore, it looks good. Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:50, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think you might have to revert your changes. MOS:NUMNOTES says that "Comparable values near one another should be all spelled out or all in figures, even if one of the numbers would normally be written differently". -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:42, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Personally, I would write the first sentence thusly: "Twenty-two people have represented Wyoming in the United States Senate, including sixteen Republicans and six Democrats." Likewise on the House subsection. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bgsu98 & @MPGuy2824, I've made changes accordingly. Please let me know if they look better. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:26, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I supported it before and I stand by that support. To clarify, I didn't mean to confuse the issue with regards to the numbers. I was referring explicitly to the numbers under 10, where some were rendered in digits and some spelled out, and I said they needed to be uniform. But User:MPGuy2824 is correct that that uniformity needs to encompass all comparable numbers, which in this case included some numbers over 10. Either way, it looks good! I'm sorry for the confusion. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:59, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:38, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bgsu98 & @MPGuy2824, I've made changes accordingly. Please let me know if they look better. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 20:26, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Personally, I would write the first sentence thusly: "Twenty-two people have represented Wyoming in the United States Senate, including sixteen Republicans and six Democrats." Likewise on the House subsection. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:10, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Bgsu98, I've reverted my changes associated with that suggestion. MOS:SPELL09 states that numbers less than or equal to nine should be spelled out, and I've done that accordingly. Is there some spot I've missed where I am using numerals for those numbers? Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 01:45, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- User:Staraction: Both sections still show a mixture of digits and numbers spelled out. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:33, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:57, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Central America this time. I’ve removed some fluff, consolidated a few data sections into the main table, consolidated all prose into the lead and history section, and improved sourcing. If this gets promoted it would be the first FL under the ambit of WikiProject Belize. Recent similar FLs: Nepal, Bahamas. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:57, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Olliefant
[edit]- Explain how electors are designated
- The country doesn't have an Electoral college. The representatives are directly elected by all eligible voters. I've changed the cell header to "Electorate" like in the FLs mentioned above and added a line about minimum age for voters to the lead. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- Explain why and when there is redistricting
- There should be a dedicated notes section for the two EFNs
- Also both EFNs are unsourced
- Could use some analysis about partisan compesistion
- I'm not entirely convinced that adding something about Belize's two party system is appropriate for this list. Elections in Belize seems like a more apt target, but I could be persuaded with a good argument for including it here too. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- I think a comparable article which is currently up for FLC is United States congressional delegations from Arkansas, this list briefly discusses partisan compesition, I don't think anything too long is needed just maybe a sentence or two briefly explaining who the major parties are for those unfamilire with Belize's politics. Olliefant (she/her)
- I'm not entirely convinced that adding something about Belize's two party system is appropriate for this list. Elections in Belize seems like a more apt target, but I could be persuaded with a good argument for including it here too. -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- I think the infobox text "[National Assembly Building], Independence Hill, [Belmopan], Belize" is technically a WP:GEOLINK violation. I dont think "National Assembly Building" should be included in the place name. It should say "[National Assembly Building] at Independence Hill, [Belmopan], Belize" or something like that
- I feel the two see also links should be included in prose
- The dash at the end of the table should say the first overall election
- I've added the earliest year in that column to the last cell, but this could get confusing: the cell could mean "first election since all these constituencies existed together" or "first election in which at least one these constituencies existed". What do you think? -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- I think its fine how it is currently
- I've added the earliest year in that column to the last cell, but this could get confusing: the cell could mean "first election since all these constituencies existed together" or "first election in which at least one these constituencies existed". What do you think? -MPGuy2824 (talk)
- The 1981 constitution is linked twice in the lead
- Thats what I found ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 15:32, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Olliefant: Inline replied to some, and done the rest. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:08, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: I have responded above Olliefant (she/her) 18:51, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Olliefant: Done all now. Please have another look. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:33, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support good job on this Olliefant (she/her) 15:15, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Olliefant: Done all now. Please have another look. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:33, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: I have responded above Olliefant (she/her) 18:51, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Olliefant: Inline replied to some, and done the rest. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 14:08, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "This was reinstated in 1935, but it was made up of only nominated members" => "This was reinstated in 1935 but was made up of only nominated members"
- "British Honduras gained full self-government and a new constitution was passed, in 1963" - there's no reason for that comma to be there
- "to ensure that their voting population be as equal as possible to each other, as required by the constitution" => "to ensure that their voting populations are as equal as possible, as required by the constitution"
- "but voting isn't compulsory" => "but voting is not compulsory"
- "Dangriga was known as Stann Creek Town till the 1980s" => "Dangriga was known as Stann Creek Town until the 1980s"
- "Stann Creek West was known as Stann Creek Rural till 1984" => "Stann Creek West was known as Stann Creek Rural until 1984" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed all. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:44, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:15, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- File:Belmopan Parliament.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Belize - Caribbean.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Belize constituencies, blank.svg - CC BY-SA 4.0 This would need sourcing to make sure it shows the actual constituencies, please add a source for the borders or names in the description on wikimedia.
- I recolored the map that was originally uploaded by someone else. That uploader hasn't been active for a year, but I put up a query on their commons' talk page. Hopefully, there is a response. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:29, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notic3ed that the Bahamas page also doesn't cite anything of the sort. i'll pass image review but it is up to the coordinators whether this is valid or not.
- I recolored the map that was originally uploaded by someone else. That uploader hasn't been active for a year, but I put up a query on their commons' talk page. Hopefully, there is a response. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:29, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Alt text is good
- Will do source review
- What does total mean in the second table for the First Election section. I think you should change this to N/A or explain it in the lead as it is confusing. From a cursory glance at the source, this isn't mentioned there either
- @Easternsahara: See Olliefant's section above where she suggested this. It means "first election in which at least one these constituencies existed". Would it help a reader to quickly understand this if "Total" was replaced by "Overall"? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:53, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'll add here, my thought process was at a glance its not immediately obvious when the first election was held without looking at all entries and finding the oldest date Olliefant (she/her) 20:57, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- I could also change the column header to "Constituency start" or something along those lines. Then the last cell wouldn't need to be filled. Additionally, the table is sortable using that column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I still think it's useless and can the information you talk you want it to display can just be found by looking at the table. However, the total for population requires calculations so it serves a purpose unlike the total for constituency first election.
- I could also change the column header to "Constituency start" or something along those lines. Then the last cell wouldn't need to be filled. Additionally, the table is sortable using that column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'll add here, my thought process was at a glance its not immediately obvious when the first election was held without looking at all entries and finding the oldest date Olliefant (she/her) 20:57, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Easternsahara: See Olliefant's section above where she suggested this. It means "first election in which at least one these constituencies existed". Would it help a reader to quickly understand this if "Total" was replaced by "Overall"? -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:53, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:INFOBOXCITE u can remove infobox citations
- Think it would make more sense for scope row to be on the Constituencies rather than the number that they are
- Similarly, row scope the event rather than the year in history section (this can be changed with the nepal list too
Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 06:04, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Easternsahara: I had already removed the citations from the infobox a few days back.
- Did the other two suggestions for this list. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:11, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late source review
- Sources 1, 2, 6-10 pass
- WP:GLOBALSECURITY remove citation 3
- citation 4 (azp news) seems fine but I will not pass it until you remove information from the gs citation
- pass 5, history and constituency citations
- constituteproject.org should be changed to just Constitute otherwise pass 6
@MPGuy2824: seems good, will pass source review preemptively as I trust you'll resolve the above issues.User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 21:54, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've fixed the Constitue Project ref and swapped out the globalsecurity.org one. Thanks for the review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:52, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Chchcheckit (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because... 1. to finish work on a Ken Carson studio albums good topic, and 2. I think I've got everything down? Not sure if I need to include his production work (honestly I don't know where information on that is rn) or would have to put that in a separate page.
Either way. Ty.// Chchcheckit (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead.
Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- The scope for the "Peak chart positions" in all the tables should be "colgroup" since it spans multiple header cells.
Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- A lead image would be nice. (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:03, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 done all but lead image, which I don't have; would his signature work instead? // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Lead image: Never mind, don't add his signature.
- I see that you noticed (and corrected) the missing table captions.
- Support on table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 done all but lead image, which I don't have; would his signature work instead? // Chchcheckit (talk) 11:56, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Staraction
[edit]In 2019, he signed to Playboi Carti's record label Opium and the following year released two EPs, Boy Barbie and Teen X, the latter which spawned his first hit single "Yale".
This feels a little bit runny to me. Consider instead:In 2019, he signed to Playboi Carti's record label, Opium. The following year, he released two EPs, Boy Barbie and Teen X. The latter spawned his first hit single, "Yale".
Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Following the release of the Teen X: Relapsed EP earlier that year,
This doesn't make sense timeline-wise for me. The previous sentence refers to him releasing two EPs in 2020, neither of which are Teen X: Relapsed. Maybe add some more clarification here? I'm assuming you mean 2021, based on what's said later, but reading it is a little confusing.
Fixed // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- I understand there are not many free images of Carson to work with. Perhaps add an image of one of the artists he worked with under "Guest appearances", such as Young Thug?
Thanks for your work! Providing a courtesy ping for @Chchcheckit. (please ping on reply) Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:41, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- A quick skim reveals some similar articles that include production work. See Nas discography for an example. I've noticed some articles split discography and production into two different articles as well; see Kanye West discography. I think the article title may need to change if you intend to split these into two pages. At the very least, I think you should track down an RS that describes some of his production work. Staraction (talk | contribs) 18:52, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Staraction Tried finding what I could; only three songs, so I've left a small "production credits" header and left it at that with the relevant things. // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- in other words
Done // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Staraction ping // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for the delay. This looks good. I trust you've looked for an image. Support Staraction (talk | contribs) 15:05, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Staraction ping // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- in other words
- @Staraction Tried finding what I could; only three songs, so I've left a small "production credits" header and left it at that with the relevant things. // Chchcheckit (talk) 12:52, 17 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re-pinging @Chchcheckit since it doesn't look like the original ping actually went through. Best, Staraction (talk | contribs) 19:01, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry. I will address this tomorrow, as I am pretty tired rn. I did tweak the lead in refeence to bullet point 1 and 2. // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also yes I did get the ping I didn't plan to respond until I attempted to solve the production discography query // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:10, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Source review
[edit]- Refs 13, 14, and 17 seem to have website formatted wrong
- Linking is inconsistent, for example "HotNewHipHop" is linked in ref 43 but not 41
- Dates are not consistent, some use slash dates some use MDY
- I think things like refs 3 and 4 should be EFNs and the sources they cite should be individual entries under references and not just grouped under the one
- Can the Youtube sources be replaced/dropped?
- Lots of the sources have MOS:DASH errors
- Why is "Our Generation Music" a reliable source?
- Why is "uDiscover Music" a reliable source?
- Why is "Resolve Media Group" a reliable source?
- Not mandated but I'd run IAbot
- Thats what I found ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 10:20, 29 October 2025 (UTC)
Older nominations
[edit]- Nominator(s): Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 15:11, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
He's a bit of a chonky boy, but hes got an interesting story to tell and he's the first of five. Originally, I nominated this list and others like it for merging with the main List of World Heritage Sites page as unnecessary duplication. The consensus was, so concerns about manageability, readability, and content duplication could be addressed, to make it a simple list without tables and to reorganize it into the UNESCO geoscheme, not the UN geoscheme. Luckily, this region has the least amount of World Heritage Sites (it is also very small compared to the other continent spanning lists) and it was already in UNESCO geoscheme format so I chose this to be the first FL on such a topic. I have included an introduction to World Heritage sites as the first paragraph (standard) and a overview (new) of the entire region.
It doesn't have much prose, there are a lot of references but they only really verify the existence of the sites in the actual list part, and there are only 26 which are in the lead. If anyone has any suggestions like changing prose or removing references, then you may be bold and implement them. Also if you have an idea for how to make a map appear like those that are standard across Lists of World Heritage Sites, then let me know. If you think other information should be added, then feel free to suggest it!
The list for Palestine has only gotten one support, but both the other two major reviewers User:Tone and User:Richard Nevell have been semiactive. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 15:11, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have added Template:Location map+ to this article but it is not working, if someone can fix this it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 01:46, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- How do I make the total row of the table add all the values in the natural, cultural, and mixed sections as I need to manually update both right now, what is the template. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 20:25, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Mymis
[edit]- The table shows that UAE has 6 sites, but I believe it has only 2, no? By looking at the list itself. How many does Algeria have? 6 or 7? And how many in the tentative list, 11 or 12? Mymis (talk) 15:58, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment, I resolved the UAE issued but there was no issue with Algeria, both the first table and dotted list display 12 items (so does the source) @Mymis: Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- The issue with Algeria was that there were 11 sites listed while the table said 12. I can see you now added the 12th one. For UAE, it now says 16? Mymis (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- For Algeria, M'Zab Valley is mentioned in the tentative list: it should be in the main list. On the other hand, Le Parc culturel de la Saoura is missing from the tentative list.
- You might want to add the UNESCO lists filtered by country (e.g.[2]) as refs, just to make this easy to check. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:38, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will add the country refs and make the suggested fixes (by both you and Mymis) Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:17, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have now made the suggested fixes, I changed all the numbers to match UNESCO data. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 05:57, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will add the country refs and make the suggested fixes (by both you and Mymis) Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:17, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- The issue with Algeria was that there were 11 sites listed while the table said 12. I can see you now added the 12th one. For UAE, it now says 16? Mymis (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment, I resolved the UAE issued but there was no issue with Algeria, both the first table and dotted list display 12 items (so does the source) @Mymis: Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:22, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Similar to the above, I see multiple errors in the table. Can you please review every country carefully once again? For instance, it says 0 for Oman? Does Libya have 5 or 6? And there may be more. Mymis (talk) 14:52, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oman had one delisted, the table is about the current amount but I thought it would be helpful (and make the list more comprehensive) if I included the delisted site (will add an efn note later). I have fixed Libya and will check the other sites when I have more time (this weekend probably) Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:46, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Mymis: I see that you have been inactive for quite some time, but I was pinging here to let you know that I have fixed everything that you mentioned. I thought I already fixed everything and asked you to support, but I misremembered. Better late than never. Easternsaharareview this 21:38, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
MPGuy2824
[edit]- No prose problems with the lead.
- Copyediting needs to be done for the map caption.
- Run IABot on the list. Many refs are missing archive links. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:18, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Copyedited map caption, if it is not satisfactory please tell me what exactly I should change. Will run bot Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 22:41, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Looks better now. See if you want to replace the underlying map with File:UNESCO - Arab states location map.svg. You can then remove the last two sentences from the map caption since they aren't applicable. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:31, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Copyedited map caption, if it is not satisfactory please tell me what exactly I should change. Will run bot Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 22:41, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on prose (lead) and table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:36, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Suggestion: See if you can mention the number of regions that UNESCO divides the world into, in the lead. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:36, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you MPGuy2824, I have found done your suggestion and have created a Location map module for the new map you made (Thank you, I might have some more UNESCO georegion maps for you to make if you want in the coming weeks). I asked on AWB help requests for someone to replace the Arab world parameter with Arab States, if that doesn't happen in a couple of days I'll just do it myself.Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:00, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- As mentioned on WP:AWB/Tasks, I have completed the request, please review the edit and let me know if this satisfies your request. Thanks! Phuzion (talk) 01:33, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Happy to modify maps, especially so if they are going to be used in an FLC. We can continue this discussion on my talk page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:46, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments & image review from LEvalyn
[edit]- Image rights are easy: there's one map, and it has an appropriate license. I would call this a pass on images, though I have two comments:
- I am no expert on maps, but this one seems to have a lot of finicky colour-coding, and some colours that are quite similar (e.g., green/turquoise, red/brown). I'm concerned that it's not very accessible for the colourblind and possibly overcomplicated. Did you consider just doing two colours, for cultural and natural?
- I agree that it would be an accessibility problem, but I think the two colors (three would be needed as mixed is a different classification) would be too simplistic. I will replace brown and turquoise with this black x and this green plus respectively. How does that sound? @LEvalyn: could you share your thoughts with me on this suggestions?
- I'm still not entirely clear on why so many individual sites need to have their own icon, but introducing some different shapes is a great idea. That would address my most important concern, about accessibility. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:38, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that it would be an accessibility problem, but I think the two colors (three would be needed as mixed is a different classification) would be too simplistic. I will replace brown and turquoise with this black x and this green plus respectively. How does that sound? @LEvalyn: could you share your thoughts with me on this suggestions?
- As another finicky map suggestion, it might be nice to crop out the bottom third of the image, which is all grayed-out countries.
- @MPGuy2824: sorry to bother you (again) but could you do the above suggestion, I tried editing it as a svg and it didn't work, converting from an edited png to svg also lost a lot of definition so could you help please.
- This doesn't strike me as vital if it's tricky to accomplish. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:38, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

- I have the image ready at File:Map of the Arab states as defined by UNESCO.svg, but if we add it as a new version of the existing map image, it won't work with the modules (e.g. Module:Location map/data/Arab world) since the coordinates of the map would be different. Correcting the module formula is beyond my ability, especially for a live map. WT:Maps seems to be the best place to ask for help. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:26, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: sorry to bother you (again) but could you do the above suggestion, I tried editing it as a svg and it didn't work, converting from an edited png to svg also lost a lot of definition so could you help please.
- I am no expert on maps, but this one seems to have a lot of finicky colour-coding, and some colours that are quite similar (e.g., green/turquoise, red/brown). I'm concerned that it's not very accessible for the colourblind and possibly overcomplicated. Did you consider just doing two colours, for cultural and natural?
- I think parallelism would make the third sentence a much clearer read, ie, starting with "Natural heritage consists of..." rather than "[big list]...are defined as natural heritage".
- This list is consistent across all of the World Heritage Sites lists. Opposing on that grounds is silly though, but I think a parallelism wouldn't make it more concise without losing clarity. Do you have any specific suggestions (using semicolons for a complex list would only be more complex and unfamiliar for the audience)
- I don't think it needs to be more concise, I just think the sentence would be easier to read if the subject & verb were at the beginning instead of the end, as is the case with the previous sentence. (That's all I meant about parallelism -- paralleling the "cultural heritage" sentence.) If consistency is a concern, I would be happy to go personally change it on every relevant article if a different wording is acceptable... for clarity, I'm proposing that the new version of the sentence should be:
Natural heritage is defined as natural features (consisting of physical and biological formations), geological and physiographical formations (including habitats of threatened species of animals and plants), and natural sites which are important from the point of view of science, conservation or natural beauty.
(or something like that.) ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:38, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think it needs to be more concise, I just think the sentence would be easier to read if the subject & verb were at the beginning instead of the end, as is the case with the previous sentence. (That's all I meant about parallelism -- paralleling the "cultural heritage" sentence.) If consistency is a concern, I would be happy to go personally change it on every relevant article if a different wording is acceptable... for clarity, I'm proposing that the new version of the sentence should be:
- This list is consistent across all of the World Heritage Sites lists. Opposing on that grounds is silly though, but I think a parallelism wouldn't make it more concise without losing clarity. Do you have any specific suggestions (using semicolons for a complex list would only be more complex and unfamiliar for the audience)
- When the lead says "currently", should add a note that it is WP:ASOF 2025.
- Nice catch! fixed.
- I notice that the table includes a column for "World Heritage Committee service" but the article doesn't really explain that committee. Could a sentence or two be added explaining the role of the committee in the process? Or at least a wikilink?
- I'll add one, having a tough time finding sources for it right now. A page also has not be created, but there should probably be one.
- For the Arabian Oryx Sanctuary, should it be presented differently from the items because it was delisted? I see that there is a little explanatory note, but it still feels odd to see it as one of the bullets under "World Heritage Sites". Perhaps there could be a sentence of prose outside the list explaining that it used to be included but was delisted? Or a separate list of "former sites"?
- Yes put it in separate list and placed efn note
- Otherwise, I don't see any issues with the bulk of the list itself prose-wise. Let me know your thoughts on the above. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 00:08, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- @LEvalyn: I have addressed your comments, for the visual thing, I have not changed anything yet but I will after finding a suitable alternative as the alternatives look very off, are incorrect size, or are too similar to files already used. I have noted the changes that I have made below each of your suggestions except for the WHS committee one. For that I added 3 sentences (supported by ref 3) for explanation. It was the best place to put that, as the first paragraph deals with UNESCO's processes anyway User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 03:14, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- The committee information is great and works well where you've put it. It sounds like the map will proceed in a good direction; I do think it's acceptable as-is (ie certainly no problems with rights) but if you improve it feel free to ping me for a second thumbs-up. Do you object to me putting a slightly different wording of the "natural heritage" sentence across the World Heritage Sites articles? It's a relatively minor change but I think would have an outsized impact on readability -- it took me multiple tries to "follow" that sentence the first time through. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:19, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- I do not object User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 03:30, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've made the change (and will set forth on the others), and am happy to support on prose. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:54, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- I do not object User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 03:30, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- The committee information is great and works well where you've put it. It sounds like the map will proceed in a good direction; I do think it's acceptable as-is (ie certainly no problems with rights) but if you improve it feel free to ping me for a second thumbs-up. Do you object to me putting a slightly different wording of the "natural heritage" sentence across the World Heritage Sites articles? It's a relatively minor change but I think would have an outsized impact on readability -- it took me multiple tries to "follow" that sentence the first time through. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:19, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- @LEvalyn: I have addressed your comments, for the visual thing, I have not changed anything yet but I will after finding a suitable alternative as the alternatives look very off, are incorrect size, or are too similar to files already used. I have noted the changes that I have made below each of your suggestions except for the WHS committee one. For that I added 3 sentences (supported by ref 3) for explanation. It was the best place to put that, as the first paragraph deals with UNESCO's processes anyway User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 03:14, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
VWF – source review passed
[edit]- Spot checks pass.
- I have no problems with refs without archive link; some do have.
- Run a script to consistently use a date format throughout. I think DMY is most common throughout, so use that?
- Otherwise, I'm good with sourcing here.
Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:23, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have the use dmy dates template which makes it so all dates are in dmy, i do not think there are any dates not in dmy. Also, I want to archive the sources but the bot is very slow and this has a lot of sources. So I'll wait a little bit as I am not doing it manually, that is a big waste of time where i can be improving articles or doing other things in real life User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 11:47, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Easternsahara For some reasons, when I run MOSNUMscript on the article, it shows several dates not following the same formats inside the wikitext. I think you could simply run that script to fix this.
- Again, no issues with the missing archive links at all.
- There's also inconsistency in capitalisation of titles in the references, some references are like "This is a wikipedia article", while some are like "This is a Wikipedia Article". Let's maintain consistency in that if it's title case or sentence case you're using throughout. It doesn't matter how the source puts it in their website.
- To be more specific, Citation 90 is supposed to be "Alexandria, Ancient Remains and the New Library", Citation 91 as "Abydos, City of Pilgrimage of the Pharaohs", Citation 95 as "Dahshour Archaeological Area", and so many inconsistent ones. Scripts like User:ZKang123/TitleCaseConverter can aid, but you have to be careful with it, watching out for especially URLs that have caps. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:29, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces: I ran both scripts and fixed the mistakes that it made. How does it look now? User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 16:26, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Support on sources and references formatting. @Easternsahara: Please take a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of governors of Imo State/archive2 when you have time, thanks. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:53, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Olliefant (she/her) 13:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
My second Vice President Electoral History list, Dan Quayle has participated in 3ish primary elections and 6 general elections. A much less extensive set than my previous FLC but still a long career none the less. I would like to thank Bremps for comments on the Peer review and JoeM3120 for creating the page back in 2013. I hope to continue this series of VPEH soon. Olliefant (she/her) 13:38, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- "But just the old favorites, eh?" - The Fourth Doctor Who
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/7/25)
[edit]- "He and Bush ran for reelection were defeated in the 1992 presidential election by Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton and Tennessee Senator Al Gore." There appears to be a missing transition somewhere in there. Done
- What was Quayle up to before running for the U.S. House of Representatives? Did he not serve at the state level, or do these articles only focus on national elections? I cannot remember from your last article (on Joe Biden, right?). Even if the U.S. House race was his first election, maybe a brief explanation of where he came from prior to that first election could provide some background.
- It was Joe Biden, the history covers all levels of government, per Electoral history of Joe Biden#County council election (1970)
- Okay, I see now that he was the general manager of a newspaper. Perhaps some mention of this could be put at the beginning of this section, but leave the details about how his work in newspapers helped him in the general election where you have it. Done
- "In 1978, Quayle ran for reelection he won the Republican nomination unopposed..." Another missing transition. Done
- "Quayle's aids..." I believe they're aides.
- "Quayle received almost twice as many votes as Walda and winning a second term." That should either be "and won" or ", winning". Done
- "Additionally, Bush was hoping "balance the ticket" geographically..." Another missing transition. Done
- "Additionally, Bush was hoping "balance the ticket" geographically and selecting Quayle, a midwesterner, would help him do so." Perhaps clarify that Bush believed that selecting Quayle would help him... Otherwise it comes off as speculation. Done
- "Bentsen, a friend of Kennedy's," I don't believe you need the 's. Done
- Change "the Washington Post" to The Washington Post. Done
User:OlifanofmrTennant: Please let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:14, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support based on my review of the prose. I will look at the tables and images, but do not expect any issues. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:21, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- All images have appropriate licenses, alt-text, and captions. Image review passed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:06, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Brief comments
"Quayle decided to run, because he felt that Bayh's liberal views did not reflect the political positions of Indianans and that they led to poor economic results."
- this and any similar statements should be in the form "Quayle said he decided to run because", as we don't know if that's true or just a campaign position.- The 1988 presidential election table has Dukakis with 0 electoral votes, but he got 111.
--PresN 13:48, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I adjusted the wording across the page however for the second point. The data in the table has 111 for the EV count but its displaying 0. I think this is due to the inclusion of an EFN next to the number. I don't know how to fix it without removing the EFN Olliefant (she/her) 22:27, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- @PresN: forgot to ping Olliefant (she/her) 22:28, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- User:OlifanofmrTennant: I moved that note to under the table, so it now shows Dukakis' electoral votes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:38, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Olliefant (she/her) 22:39, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- If you want to expand the note, perhaps wikilink faithless elector, that might be a good idea. Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:40, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks! Olliefant (she/her) 22:39, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Quayle began his political career in 1976 by unseating incumbent Democratic Representative J. Edward Roush" - previous paragraph says 1977
- The previous paragraph says he took office in 1977, the election was held in 1976.
- Fair enough, I forgot that the US system is somewhat different to what I am used to here in the UK where the winner of an election basically takes up their post literally as soon as the result is announced -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:15, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- The previous paragraph says he took office in 1977, the election was held in 1976.
- "Quayle upset three term incumbent" => "Quayle upset three-term incumbent" Done
- "chosen by then-Vice President George H. W. Bush, to serve as his" - no need for a comma there Done
- "He and Bush ran for reelection were but defeated" - huh? I think you mean "He and Bush ran for reelection but were defeated" Done
- Also, does "re-election" not have a hyphen in US English?
- "In 1976, Quayle, then a general manager of the Huntington Herald-Press" - newspaper names are usually written in italics Done
- "The South Bend Tribune criticized" - same here Done
- "Quayle told the The South Bend Tribune" - and here :-) Done
- "would be able to effectively attack Democratic presidential nominee, Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis" => "would be able to effectively attack the Democratic presidential nominee, Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis"
- "replacing Quayle as his running-mate in his expected 1992 reelection." => "replacing Quayle as his running-mate in his expected 1992 reelection campaign" Done
- "was seen as a surprise to many pundits" = > "was seen as a surprise by many pundits" Done
- The "Notes" section is empty so I see no reason for it to be there Done
-- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:15, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk and RunningTiger123 09:57, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
We are nominating the 2025 Primetime Emmys because we believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I followed how the 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2024 were written and structured. Note: RunningTiger123 is also listed as a co-nominator since he made considerable and significant contributions to this list. Birdienest81talk 09:57, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- For the tables before the Bob Hope award section: The information isn't really a table (the columns have nothing to do with every row). To indicate that it isn't a "data" table but a "presentation" table see MOS:LTAB. You add
role=presentationto the table, drop the caption, change all '!' to '|' and you're good. - For the tables after the Bob Hope award section: tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| ''Severance''becomes!scope=row | ''Severance''(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Done - I read your comments and made the necessary adjustments based off of them. Hope this helps.
- Support on table and image accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:47, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- " behind Alan Arkin, who was nominated in that category in 2020 for his work on The Kominsky Method." - maybe say how old he was?
- "breaking a record previously held by Scott Jacoby who won Outstanding Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Drama in 1973 for That Certain Summer" - and here?
- Presenters table should sort based on surname, not forename
- "In an effort to shorten winner's acceptance speeches" => "In an effort to shorten winners' acceptance speeches" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:41, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Done - I have read your comments, and have made the appropriate corrections and adjustments based off of them. Thanks for your help.
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:56, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
Source review
[edit]- Refs 2, 22, 25, 37 I'd mark these as press releases
- Ref 19, "POLL" should be lowercase
- Ref 27, when citing multiple sources I think the procedure is typically to use an EFN saying "Attributed to multiple sources:" and have the sources be separately listed under References
- Ref 44, the title appears to be "Emmys: 77th Emmys Reviews" not just "Emmys: 77th Emmys"
- Ref 54, I'd link YouTube
- Optional but I'd run IA bot
- Linking is consistent
- Dates are consistently formatted
- Not part of the source review but Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Special is italicized on the page, but on its article its listed as the "Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Special" with only the Saturday Night Live part being italicized. In my experience TV specials are typically formatted the same way episodes are as opposed to being fully italicized
- Thats what I found ping me when done. Olliefant (she/her) 01:55, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Dumelow (talk) 06:05, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
This is my first FLC nomination but I believe it meets all the required criteria. This was written in conjunction with Pickersgill-Cunliffe who is unfortunately on a wikibreak due to illness but I will endeavour to address any and all comments - Dumelow (talk) 06:05, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead. - Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Yearbecomes!scope=col | Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987becomes!scope=row | 1987(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- All images need alt text.
- See MOS:THISISALIST and fix the first sentence of the lead. (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi MPGuy2824, thanks for the pointers. I think I have actioned them all. As I say, I am not overly familiar with featured lists so would welcome any feedback - Dumelow (talk) 06:46, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- You haven't added the table captions. See the first point above.
- I've had a go at adding them, can you check it's worked?
- The image cell isn't the primary cell of a row. I would say that the name cell should be made the header cell for all the rows.
- I'm sorry, I don't know what this means. Do you mean move the image to a different column or just move the
!scope=row
code to the name cell?- The latter -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:43, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've done this, it's highlighted all the name column in bold and shading, is that how it's meant to work or have I cocked it up? - Dumelow (talk) 08:47, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- The latter -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:43, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I don't know what this means. Do you mean move the image to a different column or just move the
- For the lead image, don't use a fixed pixel size. See MOS:UPRIGHT.
- Now specified as a thumb
- You can remove the hard coded background color for the header row. It seems to be ignored anyway.
- Removed
- Richard James Tench - one of the sources says that he retired in 1908, without any mention of service during WW1.
- I'm using, as the basis for inclusion, any flag officer listed by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, an organisation whose role it is to record British and Commonwealth deaths in the two world wars. I am cautious that moving away from their list would take us into the realms of original research - Dumelow (talk) 13:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Table captions: This wasn't done correctly, but I've fixed it. I leave it up to you whether to use the {{sronly}} or not.
- row scope for the name cell. This is now correct, but if you want the background and font-weight to be like the other cells you can style these cells individually. The scope is mostly meant for screen reader software.
- I'm not sure about including everybody that the Graves Commission has in their database. They might have included more people in an overabundance of caution. "List of active and retired flag officers who happened to die while the First World War was going on" isn't an interesting (or notable) list. Active-duty flag officers who were killed in action (during an operation or of illness) is what I think readers would expect from this list given its title. I'll hold off on supporting this list for promotion until other reviewers chime in. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:20, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. Like many retired officers, Tench returned to service during the war; he worked as a technical officer with the Admiralty Shipyard Labour Department (which I have now added to the list) - Dumelow (talk) 07:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, good that you found a document showing return to service during the War. Please continue to search for causes of death for the 3 officers where this info is missing. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:31, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. Like many retired officers, Tench returned to service during the war; he worked as a technical officer with the Admiralty Shipyard Labour Department (which I have now added to the list) - Dumelow (talk) 07:18, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi MPGuy2824, thanks for the pointers. I think I have actioned them all. As I say, I am not overly familiar with featured lists so would welcome any feedback - Dumelow (talk) 06:46, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on table and image accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:32, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Simon Harley
[edit]- Using the CWGC as the basis of the list is questionable. For example, Sir George Warrender died over a month after retiring from the Navy and verifiably wasn't employed at the time of his death. While researching this little review I saw that it claims that Charles Le Mesurier was a Commodore, 2nd Class when he died, despite the fact he had been relieved of command months earlier and reverted to being a Captain.
- As above, the CWGC is an organisation whose role is to record those that died during the two world wars. I am cautious that deleting entries because we don't think they were active at the time constitutes original research. The article states that listing by the CWGC is the requirement for inclusion
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. I will remove Le Mesurier, he is mentioned incidentally only - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've written to CWGC about Warrender. He'd been serving ashore for a year before he was retired, so it's difficult to credit that his active service aggravated any ailment he had. —Simon Harley (Talk). 07:59, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- The CWGC inclusion criteria can be found here (one of the sources linked in the article), for reference. Their list includes all serving military personnel who died during the war and those who died after discharge if their death was a result of wounds or accident occurring on active service or a disease contracted on or aggravated by active service. I will remove Le Mesurier, he is mentioned incidentally only - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- As above, the CWGC is an organisation whose role is to record those that died during the two world wars. I am cautious that deleting entries because we don't think they were active at the time constitutes original research. The article states that listing by the CWGC is the requirement for inclusion
- "In British wartime prime minister David Lloyd George's 1933 memoirs he lauds the admirals for serving at sea and sharing the risk of death with their men. He contrasts this with the service of British generals in the war whom he generalises as châteaux generals who did not visit the battlefield. This myth is unfair on the generals who suffered heavy casualties during the war, with many killed in action. Three British admirals were killed in action during the war compared to at least 78 British generals with the rate of death proportionately greater in the army." By my admittedly quick count from Bloody Red Tabs 64 of these were Brigadier-Generals, which was equivalent to Commodores First and Second Class in the Navy: this rank was not counted as flag officer under the regulations then in force.[1] Quite frankly the whole quoted section should be deleted.
- I have trimmed this out, as you suggest it is not quite comparing apples with apples
- "The rank of admiral of the fleet was held for life and was granted to the most senior serving naval officers or as an honorary rank for prior service." Heathcote is wrong: the rank was given to the most senior qualified officer: before 1914 Admirals of the Fleet "selected by His Majesty from the Admirals on the active list who have served as Commander-in-Chief or who have commanded at sea as Flag Officer for two years".[2] Before the war it was still possible for officers to reach the rank of Admiral with less than two years service afloat as a flag officer (for example John Denison).
- Thanks, do you have a suggested phrasing and replacement source?
- 'In August 1914 there were 18 serving rear-admirals, 22 vice-admirals, 12 admirals (plus 2 honorary appointments), and 3 admirals of the fleet (plus the monarch George V and 3 honorary appointments).' The Navy List was corrected to 18 July, so August isn't correct. There were 58 rear-admirals, not 18.
- Corrected to July and the typo on 58.
- Since the above section was included, why not a mention of senior Engineer officers? It is worth pointing out that the Navy of the day was very specific about what was considered a "flag officer", and even Engineer Rear-Admirals and above were not counted as such.
- Good point, I have added a mention of how many were serving in July 1914. I also think this article would be better at "...Royal Navy admirals...", as Pickersgill-Cunliffe suggested on the talk page a couple of years ago; otherwise, as you say, engineer officers should be omitted. Do you have any thoughts on this? - Dumelow (talk) 13:32, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
Possibly more remarks later. —Simon Harley (Talk). 11:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
And another.
- William Maxwell Craig died on 6 August 1914. As a Surgeon-General he held the relative rank of Rear-Admiral. Again, this strays into the definition of a flag officer. Whilst engineers counted as Military Branch after 1 January 1915, medical officers certainly didn't. —Simon Harley (Talk). 07:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Simon Harley, just checking if you had any more thoughts on my proposal to move this to "List of Royal Navy admirals...", which I think may resolve some of the inclusion criteria issues you've raised? - Dumelow (talk) 17:37, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'll try and catch up soon and get back to you. I just got in after being away on a work trip since Friday morning. —Simon Harley (Talk). 23:24, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Simon Harley, just checking if you had any more thoughts on my proposal to move this to "List of Royal Navy admirals...", which I think may resolve some of the inclusion criteria issues you've raised? - Dumelow (talk) 17:37, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]- "During this period....." - what period? You haven't specified a period. Even if you consider that the title counts (which I would say it doesn't) you are assuming that every reader knows when the First World War happened..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:42, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- When I deleted the name of the article it removed the context. I have replaced "this period" with "the First World War" - Dumelow (talk) 08:50, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
More comments
[edit]- Ranks linked in the lead (rear admiral, etc) should also be linked on first use in the body
- Done - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "In 1914 Royal Navy practice was for rear-admirals to lead divisions of 2-4 battleships, they also commanded squadrons of battlecruisers" - comma should be a semi-colon
- Done - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Many admirals also held staff positions on land rather than sea-going commands" => "Many admirals held staff positions on land rather than sea-going commands" - the use of "also" suggests that these admirals held posts both at land and sea, which I don't believe is what you mean
- Yes, you are right. Removed "also" - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The only non Royal Navy admiral" => "The only non-Royal Navy admiral"
- Hyphen added - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "This list includes all officers noted by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) as holding flag officer rank and who died" => "This list includes all officers noted by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission (CWGC) as holding flag officer rank who died"
- Removed "and" - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- "Some senior captains were appointed to the role of commodore to command a formation of ships, it did not become a formal rank until 1997" - comma should be a semi-colon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:31, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Switched. Thanks for these suggestions, much appreciated - Dumelow (talk) 07:36, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Here's my 40th AC number ones list for your delectation. This particular year was mainly about Savage Garden and Faith Hill, but in addition none other than Gwyneth Paltrow had a number one. Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:45, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98
[edit]- No issues with the prose.
- Table appears to be formatted properly.
Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:14, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- You'll want to correct the date for the Paltrow image in commons. It should be the date of the photo, not when it was uploaded.
- Support on prose and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:28, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): PresN 19:46, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
Hey everyone, mammal list #61 in our perpetual series and rodent list #6: Dasyproctidae. We continue here covering the Caviomorpha parvorder, aka "things shaped kinda like guinea pigs", with the agoutis, which look like lanky guinea pigs. So that checks out. 21 species, mostly in South America, and for once almost everything has a picture and a range map. As always, the list reflects the scientific consensus as well as the results of prior FLCs. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 19:46, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support - always very hard to find anything to pick up on these lists and that's the case again here. Great work! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on prose and accessibility. Couldn't find anything for you to fix. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:40, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/22/25)
[edit]- I must have missed this article when you submitted it originally. I have no issues with the prose or setup/content of the tables. Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:40, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): SounderBruce 23:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
The Seattle Seawolves are a successful rugby union team who finished their eighth season this year, making them finally eligible for a nomination. This is the seventh in my series of lists about Seattle's major league sports teams and their seasons, and fashioned similar to them due to the lack of suitable rugby equivalents at FL. As such, I'm highly amenable to major changes. SounderBruce 23:14, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Lead image could probably be made larger
- "The team is a member [singular] of the Western Conference and play their [plural] home matches" - I know that there is a lot of ambiguity around whether a sports team is singular or plural (in both US and UK English) but this reads particularly jarringly - is there any way to avoid it?
- Swapped in "Seawolves" for "the team".
- "Western Conference leaders Austin Gilgronis and the LA Giltinis" - is it correct that you only put "the" before one team name but not the other?
- Fixed.
- "The remainder of the season, including the playoffs, were cancelled" => "The remainder of the season, including the playoffs, was cancelled" (subject of the sentence is "remainder", which is singular)
- Fixed.
- That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review. I have made all three changes. SounderBruce 18:00, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Drive-by comments
- Sorting on PD, shows -118 between -24 and +38.
- Wikilink "Western Conference", maybe to Major League Rugby#Competition format. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:13, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Both done. Thanks for the comments. SounderBruce 19:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- There is only one image used and it has appropriate licensing tags.
- Support on prose, accessibility and image review.
- You might want to add a footnote for the points column header (4 for each win, 2 for each draw + bonus points). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:27, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Good call, I have added the note. SounderBruce 14:18, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Both done. Thanks for the comments. SounderBruce 19:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- The ref for KSL.com should be attributed to KSL-TV since the website serves as the online home for the television station.
- Added.
- Is there any way to incorporate the total number of wins and loses in franchise history in the introductory paragraphs?
- Added.
That's all I have for now. Could you proofread List of accolades received by Wicked (2024 film) or 77th Primetime Emmy Awards for featured list promotion?
- --Birdienest81talk 12:42, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: Thank you for the comments. I will try to look at those potential FLs once I am done traveling. SounderBruce 14:18, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Staraction
[edit]- Prose looks good.
- Consider adding an image of Starfire Sports or Alipate Tuilevuka, perhaps? Definitely not required. Images look good otherwise.
- I'm not sure about Americas Rugby News; it looks like it is published on WordPress. Is there a better source, or is there something I haven't found about the source?
- Source formatting appears consistent.
- Consider archiving the references in this article.
- I don't see mention of Starfire Sports in ref 2.
- I'm not able to do a full spot-check here because I don't have access to some paywalled articles (e.g. Seattle Times); if another editor could do that, that would be great.
@SounderBruce, here's some comments for now. I may add more later. Thanks, Staraction (talk | contribs) 00:56, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:25, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
I've been updating this list for a couple of years, so I figured it should be my first individual FL nomination. As far as I know, this is the first Intangible Cultural Heritage list to be nominated as well. I have been adding descriptions to each element and greatly improving the list for several months, and now I believe it is complete and meets the FL criteria. The review process will probably take a while as this is a rather long list, but any suggestions and improvements are welcome. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:25, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Very brief comments but could you add to what the national register and Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity do. I am thinking of descriptions similar to those in the WHS lists. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:36, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Similarly to the WHS lists, the lead defines Intangible Cultural Heritage, and then the following paragraph mentions that the National Register safeguards these elements on the national level. Do you want me to expand these descriptions or were you thinking of something else? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Do items have to be inscribed on the national register to be recognized by UNESCO, and what specific criteria (LIke "UNESCO lists sites under ten criteria; each entry must meet at least one of the criteria. Criteria i through vi are cultural, and vii through x are natural" from Ukranian whs list) are there to being inscribed on each of the lists? 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also formed the National Register ... which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of these elements to the UNESCO lists" – so inscription on the National Register precedes the nomination to the UNESCO lists. ICH elements don't have to meet one or more criteria from a certain list to be inscribed, unlike World Heritage Sites. Instead they have much more rigid sets of criteria, which in my opinion are self-explanatory (e.g., for the Urgent Safeguarding List, an element must fit the definition of ICH, must be endangered, the country must attempt to safeguard it, it should be practiced within the nominating country, etc). I can add these in a footnote if you think it's necessary to include this info, though I think it's somewhat redundant. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:07, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah you could add them to footnotes, and on the same subject the footnotes in this article are quite large. You should think about integrating them into the main text of the article per H:FN Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still not convinced on the necessity of adding this. These criteria are similar to the ones necessary for World Heritage Sites that are not elaborated upon in WHS lists (such as proper management and safeguarding, and a high enough level of authenticity and integrity). Now that I look at the ICH criteria again, I believe they're already mentioned in the lead (the definition of ICH, the facts that these elements are protected and nominated by individual countries that maintain their own national registers) and subsections under each list (that the Representative List aims to represent the country worldwide, the Urgent Safeguarding list is for endangered elements, and the Register of Good Safeguarding Practices accredits programs and projects that safeguard ICH). I believe there are no major omissions from UNESCO's ICH criteria in the text.
- As for the footnotes - do you have any specific ones in mind? I believe they generally contain information that is too technical to include in the text or would otherwise disrupt the flow, but maybe you have some ideas on how to incorporate some of the info. For example, the first footnote on the name changes of the Ministry of Culture is important to understand the different names that may be mentioned in the sources, but at the same time this information is not important enough to be in the lead itself. Similarly, the regional/local ICH registers are important to mention but, as they are not included in the list, probably don't belong to the main text. And I'm not quite sure how big of a footnote is too big (especially thinking back to the List of Ukrainian placenames affected by derussification). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 10:56, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- In case it helps, I agree with leaving the footnotes as they are. They all include important clarifying details and aren't excessively long and have a better than good proportion to the overall size of this list. Dan the Animator 17:20, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah you could add them to footnotes, and on the same subject the footnotes in this article are quite large. You should think about integrating them into the main text of the article per H:FN Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also formed the National Register ... which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of these elements to the UNESCO lists" – so inscription on the National Register precedes the nomination to the UNESCO lists. ICH elements don't have to meet one or more criteria from a certain list to be inscribed, unlike World Heritage Sites. Instead they have much more rigid sets of criteria, which in my opinion are self-explanatory (e.g., for the Urgent Safeguarding List, an element must fit the definition of ICH, must be endangered, the country must attempt to safeguard it, it should be practiced within the nominating country, etc). I can add these in a footnote if you think it's necessary to include this info, though I think it's somewhat redundant. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:07, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Do items have to be inscribed on the national register to be recognized by UNESCO, and what specific criteria (LIke "UNESCO lists sites under ten criteria; each entry must meet at least one of the criteria. Criteria i through vi are cultural, and vii through x are natural" from Ukranian whs list) are there to being inscribed on each of the lists? 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:16, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Similarly to the WHS lists, the lead defines Intangible Cultural Heritage, and then the following paragraph mentions that the National Register safeguards these elements on the national level. Do you want me to expand these descriptions or were you thinking of something else? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 16:33, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Also I have a general question not directed to anyone in particular about the usage of Transliteration and Lang templates. I know that it's recommended to use them whenever possible, but this list has lots of cases where these templates could be utilized, in fact so many that I'm worried that adding them would make the page significantly larger and possibly cause loading problems. Currently, I'm simply using italics instead of these templates (as mentioned in the footnote for the description columns), but I'm not sure whether that's registered by screen readers. Then should I keep the italics or replace them with the templates? Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:32, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 I think adding in all the transliteration and lang templates wouldn't be that much though if it starts to slow down or causes issues, there is a special Wiki markup bypass that helps for cases like this. It is explained briefly here. In the case of this list, Module:Lang would probably be the correct invoke. The very long article Japanese conjugation has the same issue and already uses
#invoke:
in place of a bunch of templates but also keeps a lot of templates as well (a lot more than this list does currently I think). - So, I would consider simply adding in all the translit and lang templates as they normally would but if there is a strong concern with the byte size, just add in only the regular translit templates and make all the lang templates use the markup
{{#invoke:lang|lang|uk|2=Традиція Косівської мальованої кераміки|italics=yes}}
(the Cyrillic text is a placeholder example). Also, per MOS:LANG and as you mentioned, the italics don't get picked up by screen readers so the templates or invoke markup would be better. This is my first experience with this class of markup so hopefully it works (the sample markup above worked fine for me in a test) but feel free to let me know if there's any issues with it or for invoke markup for other templates. Dan the Animator 04:39, 6 October 2025 (UTC)- I just added the Translit/Lang templates, and you're right, they didn't add as much size to the page as I expected. Thanks for clarifying when to use them and the alternative way of invoking them as well. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:01, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 I think adding in all the transliteration and lang templates wouldn't be that much though if it starts to slow down or causes issues, there is a special Wiki markup bypass that helps for cases like this. It is explained briefly here. In the case of this list, Module:Lang would probably be the correct invoke. The very long article Japanese conjugation has the same issue and already uses
MPGuy2824
[edit]- 4 images are missing alt-text (104 images, 100 alt-texts).
- Change "Revived due to the Disappearance of Tradition" to "Revived after the disappearance of the tradition".
- All section titles need to follow MOS:SECTIONCAPS. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:56, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- First and second done, but don't the names of the lists count as proper nouns, thus meaning that title case applies? UNESCO uses title case for its lists, and similarly the style is kept in all the lists of World Heritage Sites, many of which are FLs. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 (forgot to mention in reply). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- You've used the "caption" param for various tables. I don't think that is considered by the wiki engine. At least I couldn't find anything about it in Help:Tables. Please remove them.
- Done
- A lead image would be nice. Either a locator map of Ukraine within Europe or one of the images from the first few tables.
- I don't want the images to repeat, so added a locator map. Let me know if one showing disputed or occupied territories would fit better.
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:48, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I addressed your comments. Thanks for the support. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:09, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 (forgot to mention in reply). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 06:58, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- First and second done, but don't the names of the lists count as proper nouns, thus meaning that title case applies? UNESCO uses title case for its lists, and similarly the style is kept in all the lists of World Heritage Sites, many of which are FLs. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:17, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Dantheanimator
[edit]Great seeing this nominated and congrats Shwabb on your first FLN! :) Adding in a few small things I noticed but will try to do a fuller review when I have time and maybe help with the source review too
- "Three items – Embroidery technique 'white-in-white' of the town Reshetylivka in Poltava region, Rivne region tradition of the Polissia Dudka-Vykrutka, and Safeguarding practice of the "Tradition of the Generous Evening in Ukraine" through formal and non-formal education – were nominated for inclusion on the UNESCO lists in 2026."--> "Three items were nominated for inclusion on the UNESCO Lists in 2026: the 'white-on-white' embroidery technique from Reshetylivka in the Poltava region; the Dudka-Vykrutka tradition of Polissia in the Rivne region; and the safeguarding practice of the 'Tradition of the Generous Evening in Ukraine' through formal and non-formal education." (recommendation from ChatGPT, which I also think flows better)
- Done (though I did not re-word the names of the nominated items since they're on the UNESCO website and will probably stay the same if these items go through to the UNESCO Lists next year)
- Looks good to me
- "In addition, one hundred fifteen items are inscribed on the National Register of Elements of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine." --> Maybe this can be simplified to "In addition, one hundred fifteen items are inscribed on Ukraine's National Register."
- Done
- "Although all regions of Ukraine are represented in the Register through" --> Does this Register refer to the National Register of UNESCO's register (assuming it's the national one but might be good to add National/UNESCO for clarity)
- UNESCO manages three Lists, while the state controls the Register that consists of five Inventories. I can see how this can be confusing since all these terms are similar, so this is fixed.
- Makes sense and looks good now
- Maybe retitle the "Media" columns to "Photo" for consistency with other lists? (all the rows looked like they had either Photos or were empty so it would also be more precise)
- There is one video (Cossack's songs on the UNESCO list), and I initially expected to find more videos (especially for other song and dance-related items) so I titled the columns "Media". I did find a video of the singing tradition of Luka but the YouTube video uploading tool did not let me upload it to Wikimedia Commons (perhaps because of this screenshot from the video that is already linked to it, which is what I used in the end). If you believe that the Cossack's songs video is out of place, I can replace it with an image and retitle the columns to "Photo" for consistency.
- Ah sorry missed that one though I think it's a great inclusion and definitely should be kept. Considering your explanation, I think the "Media" titling is fine so no worries with that. Also about the uploading issue, I haven't had much Commons experience yet but this page lists some alternative ways to upload videos/media to Commons that could be helpful? Not sure if this is the same as the issue you described but in my experience, sometimes not having a separate wikidata item can cause issues since only one file can be connected to one wikidata entry, and it might be necessary to create a separate wikidata entry. Also maybe would double check the copyright of the video just in case before retrying an upload to make sure it has a CC/open domain license. Hopefully this helps a bit with it.
- Yes, I used the video2commons tool listed to upload directly from YouTube, which did not work. I'll try to download the video through some other website and upload it from my computer instead, maybe that will work.
Upd.: it worked this time and I replaced the screenshot with the video itself. Now there should be two videos in total.
- Forgot to reply here: yup two videos now and both look and sound great. Nice work :) Dan the Animator 21:49, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I used the video2commons tool listed to upload directly from YouTube, which did not work. I'll try to download the video through some other website and upload it from my computer instead, maybe that will work.
Dan the Animator 01:29, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- "These three groups are specifically recognized as the indigenous peoples of Crimea, a disputed region as the result of its internationally unrecognized annexation by Russia in 2014. Most countries recognize the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol as parts of Ukraine despite the de facto Russian control over the area." --> "These three groups are recognized by the Ukrainian Government as the indigenous peoples of Crimea. Since Russia's occupation and internationally unrecognized annexation of the peninsula in 2014, the territory of Crimea has been disputed, with most countries recognizing it as de jure part of Ukraine while de facto it remains under Russian control." Other rewordings also work but I thought this flowed best and was the most informative, accurate, and direct.
- Mostly done, though I changed the wording a bit as it's imporant to mention that, administratively, the Crimean peninsula consists of two entities (ARC and Sevastopol). Let me know if you think of a better way to incorporate this information into the text.
- The wording looks perfect, nice work! :)
- The UNESCO tables have a column for No./Nomination Number but I couldn't find anywhere where the numbering system is explained (i.e. why does the first item start with the number 00893? what do the numbers exactly mean (when the nomination was submitted/accepted/etc.)? maybe how are the numbers read/constructed (does each digit/group of digits represent something or are the numbers randomly generated)? who/what created/formalized the number standards and who manages them now/UNESCO)? Maybe adding in a efn note could help for this? For the National Register numbering, it likely doesn't need any explanation though would be curious if it has always been three digits or adds a digit when it reaches that amount.
- I don't know either how the UNESCO's numbering system works, but I do know that the numbers are assigned to specific nominations when they are submitted to UNESCO before they are reviewed. For example, in this list of nominations that will be evaluated this December, every nomination gets its own number. Regardless, I think this information isn't very important (the system used for World Heritage Sites isn't explained in the respective lists, and that one is even more complicated as it sometimes involves letters). As for the National Register - a digit is added once a new element is inscribed (e.g., currently there are 115 elements, so the newest one is numbered 115).
- I see. Considering past WHS FLs don't explain it, I think it should be fine without it. Also for the National Register, makes sense and thanks for telling me
- For refs with "National Historical Library of Ukraine" (#33, 56, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 139), can it be linked to Vernadsky National Library of Ukraine?
- As far as I know, these are different entities
- Should be fine as-is than
- For all the same refs, "|journal=Нематеріальна культурна спадщина в документних джерелах" should become "|script-journal=Нематеріальна культурна спадщина в документних джерелах |trans-journal=[insert trans name here]"
- Done
- For ref #40 (Geographical indications of Ukraine), maybe add in "|publisher=" since based on the current info in it, it's unclear if this an official source or third-party (also when I try to access it, I get a warning message about an unsafe connection)
- The website is run by an NGO focusing on the development of GIs in Ukraine. I'm not sure what to add for the publisher in this case.
- The English-translation of the NGO name should be put in for publisher than since it's the publisher/manager of the website
- For ref #72, 105, is "|website=Ukrainer" the same as Ukraїner?
- Indeed it is (I could have sworn I checked whether there's a page on English Wikipedia on it when making those references)
- For ref #76, I'm not too sure about this suggestion but would it be more accurate to have "|website=Helmiaziv hromada" typed out as/linked to Helmiaziv rural hromada?
- Yes, that would technically be more correct, but the website is simply named "Helmiaziv hromada"
- Completely optional, you could add in as a piped red link to Helmiaziv rural hromada (i.e. "|website=Helmiaziv hromada") that way when the hromada's article is created it'll automatically link to it though also completely fine left without any links too
- For ref #92, "|website=Chernivtsi Oblast Council" should be linked to Chernivtsi Oblast Council
- Done
- For ref #96, 150, "|website=Rayon.in.ua" probably could be decapped to "|website=rayon.in.ua" (this is how I've seen it usually though not sure which way would be more correct)
- Done
- For ref #107, "|website=Hadiach.City" maybe could be linked to Hadiach? (technically not the most accurate link but it sounds like a local media website just for the city)
- For ref #133, "|website=Kitsman.City" same question as above
- For ref #149, "|website=SarnyNews.City" same question as above
- All the "City" newspapers belong to the same platform of independent media created with the help of this company. Yes, they are intended to publish local news, but they aren't owned by the local governments, so I think it makes more sense not to link the city names.
- Interesting. Better kept without any links than.
- For "which was drafted in 2003 and took effect in 2006." in the lead, I think it would look slightly better having ref #2 together with ref #3 at the end of the sentence since there's only a few words that separate the two and the sentence only has two refs but this is optional (WP:CITEFOOT allows for it but up to you and both are fine with me)
- Done
- "Inscription of new heritage elements on the UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists for their protection and safeguarding is determined by the Intergovernmental Committee for the Safeguarding of Intangible Cultural Heritage, an organization established by the Convention." --> "The inscription of new heritage elements on UNESCO's Intangible Cultural Heritage Lists for protection and safeguarding is determined by the Intergovernmental Committee for the Safeguarding of Intangible Cultural Heritage, an organization established by the Convention."
- Done
- "The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also formed the National Register of Elements of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine to safeguard the country's cultural elements since 2012, which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of these elements to the UNESCO lists." --> "Since 2012, the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine has also maintained the National Register of Elements of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Ukraine to safeguard the country's cultural elements, which is required by the Convention for the further nomination of elements to the UNESCO lists." (flows a bit better with the preceding paragraph)
- Done
- "must play a significant role in the social life of the community" --> "must play a significant role in the social life of a community" (refers to many different communities, not just one)
- Done
- "The submissions are reviewed by the Expert Council on Intangible Cultural Heritage that controls the inscription of elements on the Register." --> "Submissions of elements are reviewed by the Expert Council on Intangible Cultural Heritage, an advisory body that controls the inscription of elements on the Register." (used this Rada ref for getting its definition as an advisory board, though not sure if the additional ref is needed since the original ref/wording already implies that it is an advisory body; also added in the link since based on the Rada law, it seems to be statutory body as defined by that article though this might be a bit too WP:EASTEREGG)
- Done
- "The first Ukrainian element listed – Petrykivka decorative painting – was inscribed in 2013." --> "The first Ukrainian element listed—Petrykivka decorative painting—was inscribed in 2013."
- I think em dashes can sometimes look awkward (especially if there's a reference inside), and while this is not the case here, I'd rather use a unified style. WP:DASHVAR allows the use of spaced en dashes in these cases.
- Sure, that works well too
- "Pysanka is a transnational element shared with Estonia." --> maybe expand slightly to describe what Pysanka is, e.g. "The egg painting tradition Pysanka is a transnational element shared with Estonia."
- Done
- "In addition, one hundred fifteen items are inscribed on Ukraine's National Register." --> "In addition, 115 items are inscribed on Ukraine's National Register." (WP guidelines are somewhat vague to any standards but it seems that typing it out numerically as 115, rather than three words, is preferable.
- Done
- "The inventory includes elements of intangible cultural heritage that are under threat of disappearing due to hostilities, consequences of temporary occupation, natural impacts, or temporary displacement of population." --> "The inventory includes elements of intangible cultural heritage that are under threat of disappearing due to hostilities, consequences of Russian occupation, natural impacts, or temporary displacement of population." (more accurate and less redundant)
- Done
- I also noticed that all the inventory subsections under the National Register have a brief sentence explaining their scope/purpose except for the first, Inventory of Intangible Cultural Heritage. Maybe might be good to add in a brief sentence there too? Probably also fine as-is
- The source actually does not provide an explanation of this inventory, even though it's the largest. It's not exactly the same as UNESCO's Representative List as it doesn't aim to represent the culture globally. Rather, it seems to be the "main" part of the National Register, covering ICH elements that otherwise don't fit the criteria for the other inventories. Now that I look at it, the Ministry's article that I've been using doesn't explain the inventory of revived elements either, so I replaced that with a better source.
- I see and good work with the improved ref for the revived elements sentence. If there's no source to describe that list, probably best to leave as-is then
- Thank you for the review. I replied to all the comments above, have a look whenever you have time and feel free to leave any comments on the list itself. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 08:49, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Shwabb1! Changes look great and see my comment above for the video uploading issue. Will add a few new suggestions shortly. Dan the Animator 18:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I've replied to the new comments. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 19:58, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 thanks for the quick work and replies :) I added in some ref suggestions/edits I found from looking over all of them and after you reply for those I think I'll give another look to see if there's anything else that should be fixed during the review. Dan the Animator 21:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 just finished all the remaining suggestions I could think of for the lead. Dan the Animator 00:24, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I finished working on your suggestions. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 10:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 great work! I think this is ready and happy to support for promotion. Congrats on a successful list and many thanks again for all the work on it. :) Dan the Animator 17:14, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I finished working on your suggestions. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 10:57, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 just finished all the remaining suggestions I could think of for the lead. Dan the Animator 00:24, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Shwabb1 thanks for the quick work and replies :) I added in some ref suggestions/edits I found from looking over all of them and after you reply for those I think I'll give another look to see if there's anything else that should be fixed during the review. Dan the Animator 21:47, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Dantheanimator I've replied to the new comments. Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 19:58, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @Shwabb1! Changes look great and see my comment above for the video uploading issue. Will add a few new suggestions shortly. Dan the Animator 18:13, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Bookmark for tomorrow. I'll probably check the images, likely sourcing and maybe text too. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 06:08, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Easternsahara just a reminder to review in case you forgot (I see you're busy with multiple things so no rush). Shwabb1 ⟨taco⟩ 12:54, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- File:Europe-Ukraine.svg - CC BY 3.0
- Per MOS:ALTMAP You should describe the information being shown, which is Ukraine is located in Eastern Europe or smth similar
- File:Blue flowers box.jpg - multiple licenses, all good
- File:Kraina Mriy DSCN2171.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Adaviye Efendiyeva 01.JPG - pd
- File:Ukrainian folk pysanky.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Ukrainian borshch 04.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Кобзарі Кость Черемський та Назар Божинський.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:0513 Die Sammlung pokutischer Keramik-Geschirr aus dem 19. Jahrhundert im Stadtmuseum in Sanok.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
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- File:ОЙ, НА ГОРІ ТА Й ЖЕНЦІ ЖНУТЬ.jpg - pd
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- File:Авторський гобелен Ольги Пілюгіної "Квітуча родина".jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Bubnivka Ceramics 2 Ukraine.JPG - cc0
- File:Бортництво - стародавній промисел Полісся.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
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- File:Did, or Moshul,archaich personage on Christmas festival in Orlovka Kartal village waiting for the competiotion (Ukraine 2019).jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Вкусна домашна баница.JPG - This may be a copyright violation, it says that it got it from another website, please check this out (claims CC BY-SA 3.0)
- The website is dead. I checked the archived version and couldn't find any information about the file being released under a CC license, so I replaced it with another image.
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- File:Соломоплетіння у Турійській громаді.jpg - CC BY 4.0
- File:Botar lekvar museum.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Обряд засівання з конем у селі Вістря.jpg - CC BY 4.0
- File:Традиційний обрядовий хліб Вінниччини.jpg - CC BY 4.0 this is the source, does the Ukrainian government release their images into creative commons? I couldn't find a notice and if yes, then please tag it with the appropriate tag.
- Most Ukrainian government websites usually do (though not all). This one in particular notes at the bottom of the page that All content is available under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license, unless otherwise noted.
- File:Гузь П.І. Кобзар.jpg - pd
- File:Map of Ukrainian dialects en.png - CC BY 3.0
- File:Buk008.jpg - PD
- File:Рогозоплетіння сіл Щітки та Писарівка.jpg - CC BY 4.0
- Source 1 pass, will continue review later.
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Here's my 39th nomination of a list of AC number ones. Please gloss over the fact that the first number one of the year featured a horrible horrible man, and focus on the achievements of a little balding man from England and two ladies from Canada..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (9/27/25)
[edit]- You spell out some numbers over 10 and render others in numerals. Regardless of WP policy, I'd just pick one to be consistent. Personally, I prefer spelled-out numbers.
- I would use the phrase "the Backstreet Boys".
- "The song was not at the time available..." reads a little awkwardly. I would recommend "At the time, the song was not available..." or "The song was, at the time, not available..."
User:ChrisTheDude: Let me know what you think! Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:08, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: - thanks for your review, all done I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:59, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- The first paragraph uses the phrase "52 issues", while the second paragraph uses "fifty weeks". Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:08, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: - curses! :-) Sorted now..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- See, I like the numbers spelled out; it looks much cleaner. 😃 Definite support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:40, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- User:ChrisTheDude: I have this article up at FAC if you are willing to take a gander. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:56, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: - curses! :-) Sorted now..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- The first paragraph uses the phrase "52 issues", while the second paragraph uses "fifty weeks". Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:08, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- The lead image is more than a decade after this list's year. It would benefit from a "(pictured in 2017)" added to the caption.
- "serviced to radio" - Is there a better way to put this? I can guess what it means though and if this is common jargon, then leave it as is.
- All 4 images have Wikipedia-compatible licenses, so this passes image review.
- No issues with table accessibility.
-MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:12, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: - thanks for your review, all done I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:59, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- My first point is still left to do. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: - apologies, could have sworn I made that change but maybe I failed to save. Done now! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- My first point is still left to do. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:43, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support on prose, accessibility and image review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:52, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:18, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Since Sweden was just promoted, this is the next national skating championship article in line. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, and the sources are properly formatted. This national championship competition is interesting in that the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, and Poland combine their national championships into one competition and then split off the top results from each nation to determine the national medalists. Please let me know if you have any feedback or suggestions, and thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:18, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "are held in coordination" - I think "are held in conjunction" would be more common wording
- That does sound better.
- "The 2026 Four Nationals Championships are scheduled to be held 11–13 December 2025" => "The 2026 Four Nationals Championships are scheduled to be held on 11–13 December 2025"
- I always get confused when the dates are DAY/MONTH, so I'll trust you on this one.
- That's it, I think. Great work as ever! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:43, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
User:ChrisTheDude: All fixed. Thank you so much! Bgsu98 (Talk) 12:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
MPGuy2824
[edit]- You can consider adding "Veronika Joukalová" to the end of the second-last sentence of the lead.
- Support on text and accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- User:MPGuy2824: Thank you for your support! I also have World Junior Figure Skating Championships up for consideration here if you have a minute and are willing. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:0R9, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Figureskatingfan
[edit]- The prose looks good, as expected. I learned something new; I had no idea that the Four Nationals Championships even existed.
- Refs spotcheck
- Ref1: Unless the translation's missing something, I see nothing in this document that supports your claim that CFSA organizes the competition. Actually, it doesn't mention it at all.
- Ref5: Don't have access to this source, so I'll just ask you: Does it support both claims, that the Czech championships took place the same month as the resolution of Yugoslavia?
- Ref8a: I've had this disagreement with the nominator before and lost the argument (or, rather, I've chosen to not press it), but I wanted to go on the record about it again here. The source is a list of scores and placements; it only implies the claim made here. The same can be said about refs9&10. I think that our disagreement stems from a difference in philosophy and opinions, so don't even respond to it if you don't want to.
- Otherwise, things look good. Address the first two issues in the spotcheck, and I'll gladly support this list. Nice job as always, especially the images and the sourcing for the scores and standings. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:28, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here is the article. Publication date was 12/21/91, which means Czechoslovakia's last national championships occurred about a week or so before the country ceased to exist. I realized that the first half of that sentence depended on the previously cited source, so I coped it over for clarity. Obviously the source on 12/21 couldn't address a dissolution that hadn't happened yet.
- Yes, but does the article support your claim that the dissolution and the championships happened in the same month? Again, this gets to our basic philosophy disagreement and difference in opinion, since it can be said that the inference is obvious. Personally, I think that you can say both things, but as different statements. Currently, you connect the two events. I think that you should separate them and then allow the reader to make the inference, since it is remarkable that figure skaters competed in their country a few weeks before it ceased to exist. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 00:17, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- User:Figureskatingfan: Let me know if what I have now is more to your liking. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:49, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Here is the article. Publication date was 12/21/91, which means Czechoslovakia's last national championships occurred about a week or so before the country ceased to exist. I realized that the first half of that sentence depended on the previously cited source, so I coped it over for clarity. Obviously the source on 12/21 couldn't address a dissolution that hadn't happened yet.
User:Figureskatingfan: I have also replaced source no. 1. The new article states toward the end that the Czech Figure Skating Association oversees the national championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:43, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- Awesome, very good, thanks. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 00:17, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at your changes, yes, I'm good with how you've responded to my feedback. Move to SUPPORT. Nice work, as always. Good luck with your next projects. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:01, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- User:Figureskatingfan: Thank you so much! I also have ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating up for FLC if you have a minute. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:44, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at your changes, yes, I'm good with how you've responded to my feedback. Move to SUPPORT. Nice work, as always. Good luck with your next projects. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 18:01, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Preferwiki (talk) 03:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria outlined at WP:FL. The results are all sourced and documented, the tables are properly formatted, the sources are properly formatted and archived, and relevant photographs are used. Additionally, I have already adapted changes that were requested on similar articles to this one so as to avoid issues. Please let me know if you have any feedback and suggestions for improvement. Thank you.Preferwiki (talk) 03:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "one [singular] Blue Dragon Film Awards [plural]" doesn't work
Done
- " one Grand Bell Awards, as well as a Buil Film Awards." - same for both of these
Done
- "tying him with the K-pop girl group Twice." - no reason for the group name to be in italics
Done
- "Kim's breakthrough role in Start-Up" - on the other hand, the title of a TV series should be in italics
Done
- "he won Most Popular Actor in 57th Baeksang Arts Awards." => "he won Most Popular Actor at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards."
Done
- "he also received the Emotive Award Asia Artist Awards" => "he also received the Emotive Award at the Asia Artist Awards"
Done
- "recognized as one of the 2021 Seoul Drama Awards' character of the year" - "one of" suggests multiple characters were recognised, yet you have "character of the year" (singular)
Done
- "won Outstanding Actor in the 2022 Seoul Drama Awards." => "won Outstanding Actor at the 2022 Seoul Drama Awards."
Done
- "Kim made his debut in the film industry as the title role in Park Hoon-jung's noir film" => "Kim made his debut in the film industry in the title role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film"
Done
- "leading to his win of the New Actor Award" => "leading to his winning the New Actor Award"
Done
- "at the 32nd Buil Film Awards and the 59th Grand Bell Awards respectively" - there's no reason for the word "respectively"
Done
- "nominations in the Most Popular Actor and Best New Actor at the subsequent year 60th Baeksang Arts Awards." => "nominations in the Most Popular Actor and Best New Actor categories at the subsequent year's 60th Baeksang Arts Awards."
Done
- Image caption: "Kim Seon-ho at the 2017 MBC Award" => "Kim Seon-ho at the 2017 MBC Awards"
Done
- In the "nominee/work" column of the table, titles starting with "The" should sort based on the next word
Done
- That one is not done. "The Childe" still sorts under T and "The Tyrant" also sorts incorrectly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I already put sort code to both projects
Done
- I already put sort code to both projects
- That one is not done. "The Childe" still sorts under T and "The Tyrant" also sorts incorrectly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Note I should start with a capital letter like all the others -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:28, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- This one is also not done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I missed this. Now all under Notes section start with capital letter
Done
- Thank you for your review. All done. @ChrisTheDude
- I missed this. Now all under Notes section start with capital letter
- Preferwiki (talk) 05:53, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @ChrisTheDude
- I already fix on the latest feedback. Please check again incase I've missed something. Thank you in advance. Preferwiki (talk) 01:56, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- This one is also not done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:04, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you so much Preferwiki (talk) 12:56, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Orangesclub
[edit]- I don't see why Twice need to be mentioned at all, they are tied at fourth most awards which isn't notable.
Done
- References #47 and #48 are duplicated
Done
- The hyperlinks for the reference and external links sections should be removed from ToC, I don't believe other comparible FLs have them there
Done
- For the lead, films should have their release years in parenthesis ie The Childe (2023)
Done
- I think the lead could have better flow. A start would be to remove the line break after the first two sentences on his TV roles. Then,
earned him a nomination for Best Supporting Actor – Television and he won Most Popular Actor at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards
is a bit confusing on first read - I wasn't sure they were for the same ceremony. I would change it to "earned him an award for Best Supporting Actor at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards alongside a nomination for Best Supporting Actor at the same ceremony" or something along those lines. Open to your thoughts, I just think it needs to be reworded.
Done
- Rephrased to this: Kim's breakthrough role in Start-Up earned him the Most Popular Actor Award at the 57th Baeksang Arts Awards, alongside a nomination for Best Supporting Actor – Television at the same ceremony.
Kim made his debut in the film industry in the title role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe
- this doesn't read well - it is the titular role with the Korean title but in English it reads as if he is a child? I would swap titular for lead.
Done
- Rephrased to this: Kim made his feature film debut as the top biller in Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe (2023).
- "Top biller" is not an expression in English. I would suggest "Kim made his feature film debut in the leading role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude rephrase to this: Kim made his debut in a feature film with top billing in Park Hoon-jung's noir film, The Childe (2023). I use top billing per Mirriam Webster Dictionary [6], because there are two lead roles but Kim was given top billing status in the film.Preferwiki (talk) 07:07, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- For info, "He was given top billing" is a valid expression in English. "He was the top biller" is not a valid expression -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Done Rephrase as per suggestion: Kim made his feature film debut in Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe (2023), where he was given top billing status. Preferwiki (talk) 03:35, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- For info, "He was given top billing" is a valid expression in English. "He was the top biller" is not a valid expression -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:34, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude rephrase to this: Kim made his debut in a feature film with top billing in Park Hoon-jung's noir film, The Childe (2023). I use top billing per Mirriam Webster Dictionary [6], because there are two lead roles but Kim was given top billing status in the film.Preferwiki (talk) 07:07, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- "Top biller" is not an expression in English. I would suggest "Kim made his feature film debut in the leading role of Park Hoon-jung's noir film" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:58, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
- Rephrased to this: Kim made his feature film debut as the top biller in Park Hoon-jung's noir film The Childe (2023).
- I also think wikilinking leading man and title role are overlinking.
Done
That's all from me for now - I will run a script to make dates formatting consistent as I'm already here. Please ping me when done. orangesclub 🍊 14:48, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. All done. @User:Orangesclub Preferwiki (talk) 16:35, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Made latest correction as per suggestion. All done. Thanks again for the reviews. Pinging @ChrisTheDude and @Orangesclub Preferwiki (talk) 03:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Good work, seems the table's ToC is still including references/links but this isn't dealbreaking for me, support. orangesclub 🍊 20:21, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the support Preferwiki (talk) 08:38, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Good work, seems the table's ToC is still including references/links but this isn't dealbreaking for me, support. orangesclub 🍊 20:21, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Made latest correction as per suggestion. All done. Thanks again for the reviews. Pinging @ChrisTheDude and @Orangesclub Preferwiki (talk) 03:37, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
Accessibility comments
[edit]- The compact toc template does not seem to be working. You can remove it. The table isn't that long anyway.
- Row header cells (like "APAN Star Awards") which span multiple rows should have their scope set to "rowgroup". Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- There is only one image and it has alt-text. (please
mention me on reply) -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:37, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:22, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria outlined at WP:FL. The list is comprehensive, well-structured, and consistently formatted. It is supported by reliable sources and I’ve made efforts to include all notable entries with verifiable sourcing. Special attention was given to maintaining chronological accuracy and consistency in formatting. I welcome feedback and suggestions for improvement. Thank you. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 15:22, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "along with a few appearances in Kannada, and Tamil cinema" - no reason for that comma before "and"
Done
- "for which she received the Filmfare Lux New Face of the Year" => "for which she received the Filmfare Lux New Face of the Year award"
Done
- " in the the 1995 romantic thriller Takkar" - the word "the" is in there twice
Done
- I would also suggest changing that same sentence to start "She gained" so that you do not have two consecutive sentences starting with "Bendre...."
Done
- "The Broken News (2022-2024)" - the dash should be an ndash (–)
Done
- "earned her a nomination for the Filmfare OTT Awards for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series" => "earned her a nomination at the Filmfare OTT Awards for Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series"
Done
- "Hindi & Tamil" should be "Hindi and Tamil" per MOS:AMPERSAND
Done
- "Season 1-3" should be "Seasons 1–3" (with an ndash)
Done
- same for "Season 1-2"
Done
- "The Broken News" should sort under B, not T
Done
- That's it :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:26, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks @ChrisTheDude:. All done.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:28, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- The lead image is missing alt-text.
Done
- Some of the language links are disambiguation pages.
Done
- Since the table can be sorted on quite a few columns, you'll have to wikilink every cell in the language column. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:44, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. All done @MPGuy2824:- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 11:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
Between 1993 and 1996
The first year here should be either 1994 or 1995, since she had no movies released in 1993.
- ref 3 (ebay) doesn't work
- Support in advance, on text and accessibility, since I expect you to fix the above issues. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:53, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MPGuy2824. Please let me know if there are any pending issue that need to be addressed.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:49, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- The wikilinking of languages in the table was undone by an IP editor. Nothing else. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:50, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello. Thanks for letting me know. I've corrected it.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 11:45, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- The wikilinking of languages in the table was undone by an IP editor. Nothing else. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:50, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @MPGuy2824. Please let me know if there are any pending issue that need to be addressed.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 17:49, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. All done @MPGuy2824:- 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS 🍁 11:07, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Erick (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
After getting List of Billboard Latin Pop Albums number ones from the 1990s FL, I wanted to get into the tropical side of the 1990s once more. As always, I look forward to addressing any issues brought up in the comments. Some of albums I remember from my days living in New Jersey during in the 90s. Ah the memories... Erick (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Tropical Albums (formerly known as Tropical/Salsa Latin Albums), is a chart " - no reason for that comma after the brackets
- "Since its inception, the chart had been published on a fortnightly basis with its positions" => "Initially, the chart was published on a fortnightly basis with its positions"
- "basing it on electronic point of sale data" => "based on electronic point of sale data"
- "and was the bestselling tropical of 1990" => "and was the bestselling tropical album of 1990"
- "tied for the most number one albums of the decade" => "tied for the most number-one albums of the decade"
- "Merengue music, which rivaled salsa music in the 1980s,[16] also saw its popularity rise in the 1990s" => "Merengue music, which rivaled salsa music in the 1980s,[16] saw its popularity rise in the 1990s"
- "Juan Luis Guerra, was credited" - no reason for that comma
- "outside of the working-class" => "outside of the working class"
- You use both "best-selling" and "bestselling"
- "Cuban music saw a resurgence in mainstream interested" => "Cuban music saw a resurgence in mainstream interest"
- "second bestselling Latin album of all-time " => "second bestselling Latin album of all time "
- "as the bestselling world album of all-time" => "as the bestselling world album of all time"
- Ref 1 gives an error -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:54, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude Thanks for the comments! Let me know if I missed any! Erick (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:21, 17 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- All the images are missing alt texts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:24, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Added alt texts to images. Can't believe I forgot about them. Erick (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Wikilink the first uses of merengue and salsa.
- "Buena Vista Social Club is the second bestselling Latin album of all time in the US as of 2017" - See if you can find a ref that's more recent for this.
- Supporting, in advance, on accessibility and prose, since I trust you'll get them done. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:25, 22 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Apologies for the late reply and thank you for the support in advance! Erick (talk) 18:34, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 Added alt texts to images. Can't believe I forgot about them. Erick (talk) 21:06, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Birdienest81talk 08:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Wicked is a 2024 American musical fantasy film directed by Jon M. Chu and written by Winnie Holzman and Dana Fox. It adapts the first act of the 2003 stage musical by Stephen Schwartz and Holzman, which in turn is based on Gregory Maguire's 1995 novel. A re-imagining of L. Frank Baum's The Wonderful Wizard of Oz and its 1939 film adaptation, the film follows Elphaba Thropp (played by Cynthia Erivo), the future Wicked Witch of the West, and her friendship with her classmate Galinda Upland (played by Ariana Grande), who becomes Glinda the Good, before Dorothy Gale's arrival from Kansas into the Land of Oz. This is my twelfth film accolades list to be nominated for featured list status, and I largely based the format off of the accolades lists for The Artist, Barbie, The Big Short, CODA, Dune, Dunkirk, If Beale Street Could Talk, 1917, Oppenheimer, The Shape of Water, and Slumdog Millionaire. Birdienest81talk 08:57, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- Is there a way to vary the language of the image caption so as not to say "received accolades" three times in one sentence?
- Jo McLaren's name sorts incorrectly
- Note d should not have a full stop -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Done - I have read your comments and have made corrections based off of them. Thank you for your feedback.
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:54, 19 September 2025 (UTC)
- MPGuy2824
- The scope for the header cells that span multiple rows should be "rowgroup". e.g. Academy Awards.
rowspan="1"can always be eliminated. That is the default. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:32, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824: Done - I have read your comments regarding the rowspan or rowgroup problems. Does this satisfy your concerns?
- Support on table and image accessibility.
- Also, if you have the time and inclination, then List of constituencies of the Rajasthan Legislative Assembly could do with a second prose review. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:14, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Crystal Drawers (talk) 18:59, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because the series holds a special place in my heart and I’d like to see it gain another FL. I’ve modeled it mainly after List of Cobra Kai episodes, but also used other featured lists as a reference. I’m hoping to get this promoted in order to continue my work towards a featured topic of BoJack's seasons. I tried to use only the most high quality sources when citing, and tried to make each paragraph in the lead brief yet comprehensive. Fire away! Crystal Drawers (talk) 19:00, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Over the course of six seasons, 76 episodes of BoJack Horseman were released between August 22, 2014, and January 31, 2020[2][13]—including one standalone Christmas special." => "Over the course of six seasons, 76 episodes of BoJack Horseman were released between August 22, 2014, and January 31, 2020,[2][13] including one standalone Christmas special."
- "Each subsequent season would receive universal acclaim" => "Each subsequent season received universal acclaim" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:22, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: thank you for the comments, they have both have addressed :) Crystal Drawers (talk) 00:03, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]Based on Special:Diff/1311598945
Reliability
- What makes The Stony Brook Press, a student-ran newspaper, reliable?
- Not a big fan of VALNET sources, but Collider is more reliable than most so should be fine.
- Rolling Stone used appropriately.
- All others look fine.
Consistency
- Mixture of Title Case, Sentence case, and Capitalising Every Word: pick one per WP:CITEVAR.
- Date format is consistent.
Other comments
- When double quotes are used in quoted text (e.g. "He said "Goodbye!" and left."), the inner quotes should be converted to 'single quotes'.
- Would recommend bundling citations 2–7 and 17–21.
- Ref 2: replace WP:ALLCAPS for emphasis with italics.
- Ref 5: link website; add archive link.
- Ref 8: no need for italics and quotes around show name.
- Ref 16: italics for show name.
- Ref 22: TV show names should be in italics per Wikipedia style and MOS:CONFORM.
Spotchecks – checking 25% of citations:
- Ref 1: pass
- Ref 5: pass
- Ref 8: does not state Will Arnet plays BoJack, but everything else is a pass
- Ref 14: pass
- Ref 22: pass
- Ref 23: pass
Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 16:54, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- @UpTheOctave!: I apologize for the late response. Thank you for the comments, all should be fixed now, except for one; I have tried bundling the sources but it always gives me an error page and doesn’t allow me to do so. Thank you again! Crystal Drawers (talk) 13:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've taken the liberty of testing bundling; feel free to revert if this breaks anything. Regardless, this is a pass on sourcing. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 22:28, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
Aoba47
[edit]- File:BoJack Horseman Logo.svg should have ALT text. The author and source links for the image are no longer working, and they should be replaced, ideally with something from a more official source. I would also include archived versions of these links to avoid any potential headaches for link rot and death.
- This has already been raised above, but the lead has two instances of citation overkill, one in the first paragraph and the other in the last paragraph. It seems unnecessary to need six citations to support this series being released on Netflix, as I would imagine that there would be a single source that would cover this. I would do citation bundling for the other instance. I know that you said that you ran into an error message with this, but this is something that can be done on Wikipedia, so I would recommend reading up on it more and trying again.
- The phrase, released through streaming, seems off to me. I would instead combine the first two sentences of the lead to say something like the following: BoJack Horseman is an American adult animated tragicomedy created by Raphael Bob-Waksberg for streaming on Netflix. I took this from List of Stranger Things episodes. It makes this part more concise and just reads better.
- The list does not mention the anthropomorphic aspect of this series, which seems like a big gap to me. It could be helpful to have an overview sentence about the world and the focus on Hollywoo before getting into BoJack Horseman's storyline.
- Correct me if I am wrong about this, but the entire series is not focused on BoJack doing an autobiography in an attempt to revive his career? From my understanding, this is the focus for only the first season, while the lead makes it seem like the show's primary storyline. It could also be useful to bring up the themes and subject matters discussed on the series.
- The following sentence is too long and should be revised: After coming up with the idea for the series in 2010, Bob-Waksberg successfully pitched BoJack Horseman to Netflix in late 2013, where the entire first season was created in only 35 weeks in order to comply with a set release window of summer 2014. I would recommend presenting this information is separate sentences. If you need help with this, it could be helpful to look at how FLs for episodes handle this, like List of Private Practice episodes, List of The Good Place episodes, or List of Bluey episodes (or the Stranger Things list linked above).
- I do not think that this part, with viewers mainly only watching the first few episodes of the season, is entirely correct. The prose for this part is primarily attributing the mixed reception for the show's first season to viewers, when these reviews really came from critics. From my understanding, Bob-Waksberg had attributed this to critics getting limited access to the first season (and at the start of this interview, he talks about only sending the first six episodes to critics). This is further supported by the IndieWire review even gets into this, as they mention only having access to the first six episodes). At the end of this clip, Bob-Waksberg also discusses the reaction to the first season.
- On a somewhat similar note, while I know what is meant by "drastic tonal shift", I think that more context would be helpful for this, as the prose does not actually say what this "shift" really is, so I could see it being confusing to unfamiliar readers.
- I believe that Bob-Waksberg voluntarily ended the series with its sixth season, but I would clarify that in the lead. It is good to have information here about why the show ended rather than just listing when it ended.
- I would incorporate the part about season six being released in two parts in the lead rather than above the season six table. It would be better to have this information together in the lead as it would be more easily accessible for readers that way. I have the same comment for the information about the Christmas special. I would avoid having this information buried in the list.
- Could the Collider citations be replaced with higher-quality sources? It is okay if that is not the case, but I would imagine that this show has received a lot of coverage to the point that higher-quality sources would have discussed these points.
I hope that these comments are helpful. Best of luck with the FLC! Aoba47 (talk) 00:33, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): ~ L 🌸 (talk) 09:33, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
After reading a lot more French literary criticism than I expected, I am confident that this is a fully complete and comprehensive list of adaptations of the tragic love story Manon Lescaut. (I split it out from that article, where I first wrote it, for better summary style.) This is my first FL nomination so I am very eager for feedback! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 09:33, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Adding a comment for whoever does the image review: I've also collected a gallery of related images on the Talk page, and I would highly value advice as to whether any of these should be added to the article. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 06:53, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98
[edit]Considering I have a background in French Literature, I figured I should assist with this review, though my focus was 19th century and not 18th century. Also, I was not familiar with this work prior to this article.
- I've not heard the phrase "without marriage" versus "outside of marriage".
- You have some British spellings (ie. "humour") and some American spellings (ie. "dramatize"). You should pick one and stick with it.
- "These operas varied widely..." I would say they "vary" widely since they presumably still vary.
- "In the theatrical and operatic adaptations, Manon's three lovers are combined into just one." I recommend perhaps modifying the end of the sentence to clarify "one character".
- Is there a wikilink for "cinemofono"? I'm guessing if there were one, you'd have used it.
User:LEvalyn: Overall, the article is very well written, as you can see by the very small number of recommendations I have. Please let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:48, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your comments, I appreciate it! For the first item, I changed to "without marrying" because something about the phrase "outside of marriage" bothers me; let me know if that still sounds off to you. Also, alas, my own native EngVar is an abominable combination of British and American, both "humour" and "dramatize", ie, Canadian English; regrettably, the article is currently consistent. Your other notes I have addressed as you suggest. Nothing to wikilink for cinemofono; I haven't been able to turn up any information about it, really. Thank you again for taking a look! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 01:31, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- I will trust you when you say the English is consistent with Canadian English. The rest is good. I am happy to support. I will also come back to do the source review for you in a few days. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:43, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Source review (9/25/25)
[edit]- Random spot check of sources checks out.
- Formatting of sources appears to be correct and appropriate. I would recommend providing wikilinks for sources (ie. Rotten Tomatoes) when available.
Source review passes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:16, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for coming back for the source review, appreciate it! I've added some more wikilinks to the sources. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:10, 27 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Key scenes that thteey consistently include are the reconciliation at Saint-Sulpice, the scene with the Italian prince" - sould you give a tiny bit more context to this? Who is reconciled? Who is "the Italian prince"? This sentence seems to assume a level of knowledge of the story which nothing up to this point in the article has imparted
- Notes 6, 10 and 13 are sentence fragments so should not have full stops -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:42, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great point about those plot details, thank you-- I've added more context. Please let me know if it still feels unclear, or if you think the article would benefit from including a longer summary of the novel's original plot. I've also removed those full stops. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 00:11, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:36, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from TechnoSquirrel69
[edit]Wow, I'm glad my suggestion for a split has already landed up at a quality assessment venue! There's a few comments I made at the Manon Lescaut PR that also apply here, so I'll copy them over. I'll hopefully be back for a more thorough review next week. Citation numbers from this revision.
- Could you briefly go over how reliable Jean Sgard is?
- Was there an RSN discussion about the reliability of the English National Ballet?
- Do we have anything better as a source than Kenneth MacMillan's own website? I see a book in the article about that ballet that could serve as a replacement.
- MOS:WEBITALICS advises against using the
|publisher=parameter for websites. - I'd recommend switching citation 17 to sentence case to match everything else. Use
|url-status=live. Add the publication date. - Unitalicize the year in citation 29.
- Italics for the titles in citations 31, 36, 39, and 40 (and maybe a few more too).
- I wouldn't recommend providing URLs for Adams 2023 or Leichman 2017. The DOIs already link to the same places, and the links imply free access (the
|doi-access=freeattribute causes this behavior, for example). If you'd like to keep them, use|url-access=subscriptionconsistently. - En dash between the years on Klossner 2002.
Feel free to respond inline or below as you please. Citation numbers from this revision. —TS
- Is chevalier worth translating in a footnote? The link to the knight article seems like a slightly opaque one to me.
- It was hard to translate, exactly, but I've added an explanatory footnote. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Similarly with "deportee" linking to correction girls. Can that term just be used in the prose?
- Changed it to "a deported correction girl" ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- The link to commoner seems excessive.
- Removed. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- MOS:PLOTSOURCE is a little ambiguous on whether the plot information in the lead needs a citation in this context, but if it wouldn't be too much trouble to track it down, I would recommend one.
- I checked several of my secondary sources of them but none of them give a very good summary of the plot that would fully verify the synopsis I have here. I added a cite to the novel. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- The French titles are not consitently within parentheses or footnotes.
- Gah, I've tried to get all of those so many times... I think they are all sorted now. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- There's also "("The Fallen Woman")", which should probably use {{Translation}}, and at least single quotes per MOS:SINGLE.
- I used the translation template, which made italics look more appropriate to me than any quote marks. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- The prose should clarify that the title La traviata is in Italian, maybe by introducing Verdi as an Italian composer.
- Done. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Des Grieux → des Grieux (in a few places, use Ctrl+F)
- I think I got them all. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- On my display, the {{Multiple image}} in § Stage adaptations is breaking up the following list weirdly in Vector 2010. Consider a {{clear}} before the subsection header.
- Added (I think I understood the spot which would address this for you, please feel free to move it if I misunderstood) ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- There are a couple of items commented out in § Stage adaptations; are these worth listing, or maybe mentioning in the prose somewhere?
- I don't think there's a good way to mention them without WP:OR. They are adaptations for which I found one newspaper announcement that they were forthcoming, but no evidence that they subsequently ever existed. I think a lot of the plans that people in 1913 made for what they would do in Paris in 1914... did not come to pass. But since I couldn't find a source actually stating that they didn't get made, or anything else about them, I don't think it makes sense to mention them in the article itself. I considered deleting the comments (which I was originally using to track all the plays in that announcement) but I thought it might be useful to note the dead end for future editors. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- "alternative for prison for minors" in the footnote reads awkwardly.
- Rephrased. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]Let me know if you have any questions! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:04, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for this, and now I feel silly that I didn’t double check those peer review comments myself before nominating here! I’ll work through them and let you know when they’re all done. For the first point, about Jean Sgard, he’s a French literature professor and the world expert on Prevost; everybody else cites him all the time. The article relies on him a lot because I sought out his books intentionally as the best source on the topic. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 22:38, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- All right, I think I have now addressed all but two of these! 1, I started a discussion at RSN about the English National Ballet site but actual consensus will have to wait for the discussion. And 2, I'm not sure what you mean by "use
|" regarding citation 17. Where does it need to be used? Also, let me know if you still have questions/concerns about Sgard -- I can dig up some quotes about him from the sources, I think Angela Scholar's introduction to Manon has some kind of explanation of his influence on the scholarship. Thanks again for your suggestions! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:10, 27 September 2025 (UTC)- Whoops, I always seem to trip over myself when using the {{para}} template — fixed! Your changes look good to me so far. I'll try and make time for a full prose review later this week, but please go ahead and ping me if I forget. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:28, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand now! I set that URL status to "live". As an update on the RSN discussion, there's only been one comment there, which says
I don't see why anyone should doubt their reliability
. So I feel pretty sanguine about that source. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 19:05, 3 October 2025 (UTC)- The RSN discussion was archived without any further comments. I'm personally satisfied that the source is appropriate for its use in this context. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:36, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand now! I set that URL status to "live". As an update on the RSN discussion, there's only been one comment there, which says
- Whoops, I always seem to trip over myself when using the {{para}} template — fixed! Your changes look good to me so far. I'll try and make time for a full prose review later this week, but please go ahead and ping me if I forget. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:28, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- All right, I think I have now addressed all but two of these! 1, I started a discussion at RSN about the English National Ballet site but actual consensus will have to wait for the discussion. And 2, I'm not sure what you mean by "use
- Finally got around to starting that prose review — better late than never! I'll probably be back with more suggestions, but here are a few for now. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 14:28, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the prose review! I've replied to each point above and I think each is addressed. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- TechnoSquirrel69, just a ping to make sure you were notified that I responded above. Happy to keep workshopping if there’s anything you don’t feel was properly addressed. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 00:54, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hey L, I did indeed see your changes; looking good so far! I'm hoping to be back with one last round of comments later this week before deciding on a !vote. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:57, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
Yes, definitely use website= for websites and publisher= for printed sources. The only exception I know of is if the document you access on-line is a PDF, then you can use publisher=. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Done. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]Disclosure: I am reviewing this because LEvalyn reviewed my article and because of a request on the wiki-discord. User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 23:30, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- File:Erismann SAPA-A-1553-FO-542-1-DC (cropped).png - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Sibyl Sanderson. Opéra-Comique. Manon. Rôle de Manon Lescaut. 19 octobre 1891 - btv1b532789757 (cropped).jpg - PD
- File:Maria Farneti7 (cropped).jpg - PD
- File:When a Man Loves (1927) - 1.jpg - PD
- Most alt checked out, last image's needed a fix
Image review pass
- Thank you for the review, and for addressing that bit of alt text for me! I appreciate it. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:26, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Idiosincrático (talk) 15:38, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
The Gold Coast is a city and local government area in Queensland, Australia and is divided into 81 suburbs and localities (they're virtually the same). It's an amazing city which, from what I often see, is not well known outside Australia. Beaches, mountains, rivers, high-rises, Monaco-esque marinas, and woeful housing affordability, what more could you want! Idiosincrático (talk) 15:38, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Steelkamp
[edit]I'll review this. Steelkamp (talk) 15:43, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Is there a source for the suburb vs locality column?
- Each division is designated a suburb or locality in the Place names gazetteer citation linked in the title of the table Idiosincrático (talk) 05:19, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Bgsu98
[edit]Note: The following were originally posted as a drive-by comment:
- The table looks to be mostly formatted correctly, but ensure that all of the columns have appropriate column scopes. Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:46, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
- Column scopes fixed, cheers! Idiosincrático (talk) 04:42, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Great! I will look at the article more closely this weekend... Seems like an interesting topic. Bgsu98 (Talk) 11:15, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Column scopes fixed, cheers! Idiosincrático (talk) 04:42, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
- Additional comments
- What is meant by "gazetted"?
- The city's divisions are gazetted into 52 suburbs (urban areas) and 29 localities (rural areas),[6] they are stretched from the Queensland state border to the south, the Coral Sea to the east, the Albert River to the north and the Gold Coast hinterland and Scenic Rim to the west. – That comma after (rural areas) is inappropriate. Use either a semicolon or separate into two sentences.
- The largest division is the Southern Moreton Bay Islands locality (83.9 km2), it is also the only unpopulated division. Again, inappropriate use of a comma. Recommend use of a semicolon.
- Is "PO Box" is preferred abbreviation for post office box in Australia?
- The table has a column for locality v. suburb, but what is the difference between these two designations?
- Recommend flipping the 2016 census and 2021 census columns. As currently presented, the math is backwards when calculating the change.
User:Idiosincrático Please let me know if you have any questions! Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:46, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- I linked gazetted to government gazette, which I admit is an outdated term with the advent of the internet but it's used a lot in references so I kept it in. I fixed the other small stuff, linked the column header for suburb vs. locality with the relevant Suburbs and localities article and removed the PO box abbreviation. Thanks for the review! Idiosincrático (talk) 09:23, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:54, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]Very happy to see this in FLC, been to a few of them before to see relatives. Also my first time conducting an image review, so patience is appreciated. Icepinner 13:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- File:Gold Coast suburbs map.jpg — CC BY SA 3.0
- This could benefit a caption.
It probably wouldn't need ALT text cause it would just be the same thingNeeds ALT text
- This could benefit a caption.
- File:CSIRO ScienceImage 7482 Highrise development at Southport Queensland.jpg — CC BY SA 3.0
- Needs ALT text. Can the image description be changed so that it isn't a direct copy paste from the website?
- File:Surfers Paradise, QLD skyline.jpg
- Needs ALT text
- File:Broadbeach skyscrapers, Gold Coast, Queensland, 2020, 01.jpg
- Needs ALT text
That's all I have. Location of the photographs may not be necessary since the description parameter already does the job. Icepinner 13:50, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Alt-texts are required even if they are similar to the captions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:11, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks for the clarification. Icepinner 00:55, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
@Icepinner: – All addressed, thank you for the review. Idiosincrático (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, passing image review. Icepinner 06:59, 14 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments by SounderBruce
[edit]- First paragraph could be fleshed out with some basic details about the city as a whole (total population, rank among Australian and Queensland cities, total area, etc.) to provide context.
- Consider changing up the first sentence of the second paragraph, which repeats "The City of Gold Coast".
- Link to the term "gazetted"?
- "they are stretched" is awkward, perhaps "they stretch" to maintain the tense?
- The areas should use {{convert}} to add square mile figures.
That's all I have from my first pass. SounderBruce 23:12, 13 September 2025 (UTC)
- I think I've addressed everything here. I opted not to include any area info as references are inconsistent between ABS and council. I mentioned population and economy statistics instead. Thanks for the review! Idiosincrático (talk) 11:56, 20 September 2025 (UTC)
- The economy sentence reads very promotionally; I suggest only mentioning the largest industry and dropping terms like "key strength". I also think that some of the population comparisons can be trimmed, as mentioning Brisbane's size is probably not needed here. The repeated use of "the LGA" to begin paragraphs should also be addressed. SounderBruce 04:08, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- I restructured the economy sentence as suggested, cut all the pop. comparisons including Brisbane (leaving just the mention of the city), and fixed the LGA issue. Thanks again! Idiosincrático (talk) 09:14, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- The economy sentence reads very promotionally; I suggest only mentioning the largest industry and dropping terms like "key strength". I also think that some of the population comparisons can be trimmed, as mentioning Brisbane's size is probably not needed here. The repeated use of "the LGA" to begin paragraphs should also be addressed. SounderBruce 04:08, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- I'd be tempted to merge that opening one-sentence "paragraph" with the next one
- "The ABS-defined Gold Coast–Tweed Heads significant urban area (SUA) had a population of 750,997 people, it is" - either change "it is" to "and is" or change the comma to a semi-colon
- "they stretch from the Queensland state border to the south, the Coral Sea to the east, the Albert River to the north and the Gold Coast hinterland and Scenic Rim to the west" => "they stretch from the Queensland state border to the south to the Albert River to the north, and from the Coral Sea to the east to the Gold Coast hinterland and Scenic Rim to the west"
- Both notes need full stops
- That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:04, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, I think I've addressed everything. Thank you for the review! Idiosincrático (talk) 05:00, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:33, 24 September 2025 (UTC)s
- Nominator(s): Tone 20:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Colombia has 9 World Heritage sites and 13 tentative sites. Standard style. The list for China is already seeing support so I am adding a new nomination. (It took me a while to address the comments for China since that list is massive, but this time it is a bit shorter nomination.) Tone 20:43, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
Easternsahara
[edit]- In the map, could you use red to represent cultural sites, green to represent the two natural sites and blue to represent the mixed sites. Then you could replace the sites with multiple locations which use green and blue with turquoise or purple or orange, your choice. This is common in most other maps for lists (as you know)
- "World Heritage Committee three times" could you specify all times
- a Pleistocene refugium" → "refugium during the Pleistocene" per MOS:SOB
- "the site was listed as endangered upon" → "the site was listed as endangered, after"
- "The situation has improved by 2015" → "The situation improved by 2015,"
- "in 1540 as" → "in 1540, as"
- "Spanish colonization of the region" link to Spanish conquest of the Muisca. I think that Spanish colonization of the Americas would be too broad and that Spanish conquest of New Granada is the wrong region.
- "The tombs are often decorated with polychrome paintings with geometric designs or animal and human motifs, and with stone carvings. " → "The tombs often feature polychrome paintings with geometric designs, animal and human motifs, and stone carvings. " I think "or" can be removed unless you're saying that they featured either the geometric designs or motifs with stone carvings. If all of them are carved in stone, then I'd just add "stone-carved" after "feature"
- "aggregations" link to Shoaling and schooling
- "marine life," I think a colon would work better instead of a comma since a lengthy dependent clause follows
- the hammerhead sharks" singular works better
- "Spanish influences" link to Spanish Colonial architecture if this was specifically during the colonial period, otherwise Spanish architecture works
- "Department who" comma before who
- "sombrero aguadeño" this is directly linked to spanish wiki but per H:FOREIGNLINK you should use Template:Interlanguage link
- "The site is shared with Argentina (a section pictured), Bolivia, Chile, Ecuador, and Peru" link al the countries? optional but maybe helpful
- Link "endemic" to Endemism, unfamiliarity
- "rock art through millennia" for instead of through is more common, I am not sure about this use of through
- "The paintings include scenes with dances, battles, and ceremonies, as well as depictions of plants and animals. " remove "scenes with" and "depictions of"
- "indigenous communities" link to Indigenous peoples in Colombia
- "The canal connects Cartagena, Colombia's main port, with the Magdalena River, country's main river, which however is not navigable in its delta due to obstacles" → "The canal connects Cartagena, Colombia's main port; with the Magdalena River, country's main river; which, however, is not navigable in its delta due to obstacles" Please use semicolons for complex lists where appropriate, I have seen some other instances in the main list section. Please double check
- "because of lack" → "due to a lack" should use a, due to is less repetitive
- "an engineering challenge" → "an engineering challenge due to its scale" is in source and adds detail
- redlink "Fritz Karsen " and link to https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Karsen using aforementioned template
Glad to see you active again, nice list, mostly nitpicks. I might continue my review later. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 01:06, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- "which is a World Heritage Site" link "World Heritage Site" to [[List of World Heritage sites in Venezuela and make the "Site" lowercase as that is what Wikipedia predominantly uses and what the article itself predominately uses.
- "agriculture, however" → "agriculture. However"
- "gold smiting" → "gold smithing"
- "Gabriel García Márquez, the workers"→"Gabriel García Márquez; the workers"
- "the third largest bridge in the world " link this to List of highest bridges or List of longest bridges or List of tallest bridges depending on what made it the largest
- "people mostly of African descent" link to Afro-Colombians
- "those from Mesoamerica" link to Mesoamerican architecture
- "marine invertebrates" link to marine invertebrates
- "evolution of life" link to Evolution of life
- "Museum"→"A museum" (sentence fragment rn)
- File:Colombia location map.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Baluarte de Santo Domingo, Cartagena 01.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Rio Atrato.JPG - PD
- File:Santa barbara dia.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Tombs in Tierra Dentro.jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:Parque Arqueológico de San Agustín - Tumb with deity.jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:Malpelo island NOAA.jpg - PD
- File:Cafetales, en Colombia.jpg - CC BY 2.0
- File:Jujuy Sección Quebrada Grande-Las Escaleras, Foto 1 (14960178156) (2).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Chiribiquete view.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:ESC large ISS006 ISS006-E-14568-NurSanAndres.jpg - PD
- File:Abrazo del sol al rio.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Plaza Che, Bogotá.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:YAEL PHOTOS 898.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Santuario de Fauna y Flora Iguaque.jpg - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Puente de occidente en santa fe de antioquia.JPG - CC BY-SA 4.0
- File:Puente en zona de palafitos en Nueva Venecia-Sitionuevo-Magdalena-Colombia.jpg - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Ccggm Btá.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Platyceras Floresta.JPG - CC BY-SA 3.0
- suitable alt text for images, pass image review. Waiting for a comment on prose, @Tone: 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:04, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Figured this wouldn't be put on the nominations needing urgent reviews unless it had at least one supportso I have done the fixes I mentioned. Support on prose as well, and pass source review Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, I was about to work on the comments some time these days. Thank you for fixing them ahead of me ;) Tone 20:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- No problem but could you point out additional problems or support with your comment at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World Heritage Sites in Palestine/archive1, it has gained 3 supports, a passed image and source review, and yours would probably be the only thing remaining until it gets passed. If it gets passed then I will be able to nominate List of Intangible Cultural Heritage elements in Palestine to FLC Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 02:09, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, I was about to work on the comments some time these days. Thank you for fixing them ahead of me ;) Tone 20:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Figured this wouldn't be put on the nominations needing urgent reviews unless it had at least one supportso I have done the fixes I mentioned. Support on prose as well, and pass source review Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 00:21, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
MPGuy2824
[edit]- alt text for the map would need to be explicitly added. Right now it is generating something weird automatically: "List of World Heritage Sites in Colombia is located in Colombia".
- No other accessibility issue that I found.
- "removed from the endangered list".
- -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:20, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- I reworded the sentence and added an alt text for the map, please check if it is okay @MPGuy2824: Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:50, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:01, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s):
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")06:22, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because this list is a comprehensive and accessible list which is worthy of FL status. This list mentions all of Olympic medalists from the main Olympics, Youth Olympics, and demonstration games. All of the content in the list is sourced, and it has an engaging lead and history section. It also is accessible with recommendations from my previous nomination. I created and nominated this list because of a support vote from the previous nomination. Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter") 06:22, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Malaysia made its debut at the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics, the delegation did not gain a medal in their first five participations" => "Malaysia made its debut at the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics, but did not gain a medal in their first five participations"
- There's no reason to have a capital B on badminton (this occurs in multiple places)
- "The delegation never gained a gold medal" => "The delegation has never gained a gold medal" (unless Malaysia has permanently stopped entering the Olympics)
- Link Malaysia in body as well as lead
- Link Razif and Jalani Sidek in body as well as lead
- Link 1956 Summer Olympics in body as well as lead
- Can we explain briefly why Malaysia did not compete at the Olympics until 1956?
- "After a 12-year drought of medals in the 2000 and 2004 Olympics," - this reads weirdly. Suggest simply "After failing to win any medals at the 2000 and 2004 Olympics,"
- "through Lee Chong Wei, who nearly won against Lin Dan." - who nearly won what event? How did Wei "nearly win"? Who is Lin Dan?
- "gained the first bronze medal in Diving that same year" - no reason for capital D on diving
- "four silver medals and one bronze medal was gained" => "four silver medals and one bronze medal were gained" ("was" is the singular form of the noun so not appropriate when the subject is plural)
- "In the 2020 Olympics, a bronze medal and a silver medal was gained" - same here
- "the silver being the first silver medal for Cycling through Awan" - no reason for capital C on cycling
- "The delegation never gained a gold medal" => "The delegation has never gained a gold medal"
- Awang image caption should show his name in full and not have a capital C on cycling
- Tables should sort based on surname, not forename
- "Malaysia had three medals from participants in a Mixed team" => "Malaysia has three medals from participants in a mixed team"
- Also, at which Olympics (youth or "normal") were the mixed team medals gained?
- "Malaysia gained three silver medals and four bronze medals from demonstration sports; the following are medalists in the demonstration games:" => "Malaysia has gained three silver medals and four bronze medals from demonstration sports." (no need for the "the following....." bit)
- As an aside......"I created and nominated this list because of a support vote from the previous nomination" - as per the instructions at the top, you should not nominate another article until the previous one has substantial support, not just a single !vote, but I had already written all those comments above before I noticed this, so I will leave them here anyway -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:42, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed everything except:
- Badminton capitalization on tables: I think this is suitable already.
- Explanation on how Lin Dan nearly won: I do not think it is mentioned in the source.
- Then remove it, without more info it isn't really very helpful to the reader. You also haven't added what event this relates to -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:34, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")12:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- Tables should sort based on surname, not forename: In Malaysia, there is no surname or forename.
- Olympics for Youth: I thought they were already mentioned by the year column.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")13:09, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed everything except:
Drive-by comment
[edit]- I made some cosmetic adjustments to the table for you. Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:19, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Crystal Drawers
[edit]1. The word "gain" is used three times very close to eachother in the lead, could you replace at least one of them?
2. "in the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics at Melbourne sending a total of 32 athletes" - change to "in the Olympics at the 1956 Summer Olympics at Melbourne, sending a total of 32 athletes"
3. "first silver medal from Cheah Soon Kit and Yap Kim Hock who participated in badminton…" - change to "first silver medal from Cheah Soon Kit and Yap Kim Hock, who participated in badminton…"
That's it, I’ll check the article again once these issues are fixed and hopefully support Crystal Drawers (talk) 12:24, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Crystal Drawers: fixed.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")12:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)- Excellent! Very nice job on the list, happy to support
- Also, consider checking out my FLC (if you have the time, of course, no pressure!) Crystal Drawers (talk) 12:37, 16 September 2025 (UTC)
Image and source review
[edit]- File:Flag of Malaysia.svg - PD alt should be see caption, as it substantially duplicates it. MOS:ALTINCAPTION
- The star on reference two should probably be The Star (Malaysia) but you can doublecheck
- Lee Chong Wei picture should have an alt, something like "A man jumping and hitting a badminton birdie"
- Cycling image also needs an alt
- Notes should have citations
- File:Lee Chong Wei in the 2012 Summer Olympics (3to4 portrait).jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0
- File:Cycling at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's sprint 1-32 finals - 20.jpg - CC BY 4.0
- All the icons are PD, except Wushu which is CC BY SA 3.0 but it seems to geometric to even claim that so it might even be PD
- 1, pass
- Small symbols should all have an alt which says see caption.
- archive all sources and indicate that The Star is paywalled with the red lock
- can link sixth source to CNA (TV network)
- A lot of em-dashes are being used [7] and [8], the kuala lumpur city source is suspicious for this reason, but this seems to be written before the tokyo olympics so this article is fine
User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 23:42, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nuggeteer, when you are done with fixing the issues the EasternSahara pointed out, make you that you ping ChrisTheDude is his section above. Reviewers don't usually watchlist FLC review pages. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:00, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
More comments User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 01:57, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- The author of source 1 is Timesport
- "Five medals have been credited to Malaysia from the Youth Olympic Games; two are gold, three are silver, and one is bronze" first semicolon into colon
- Otherwise everything looks good but I was wondering if the Name section should be turned into Name(s) for those tables which feature multiple people for that parameter
- 2, 4, 5, 6, 10 pass
- 3 does not mention Lee Chong Wei in 2008, add olympedia reference otherwise good. Although I think it is very low quality and should be removed unless other sources can not provide such information
- List of Olympic medalists for Malaysia#Demonstration sport no references, very concerning
- Please consolidate all the references at the end of the tables at List of Olympic medalists for Malaysia#Medal tally by sport into one.
@TheNuggeteer: There are my comments, please implement what you see fit and ask me about the ones that you think are inappropriate. I would also appreciate a review at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World Heritage Sites in Arab States/archive1, its gotten 4 already but another one would help get it promoted
- Nominator(s): User:Easternsahara
Another World Heritage Site list which will (hopefully) become a Featured List. Palestine has five Sites that are already inscribed, with 13 on the tentative list. The list follows the typical World Heritage Site list structure, modeled specifically after the Egypt list. Due to Palestine's unique relationship with UNESCO, due to the Arab-Israeli conflict, Gerald Waldo Luis has included two paragraphs in the lead to address those. Therefore, this also includes some secondary coverage, mostly in the last paragraph of the lead. As Gerald has done most of the work, but has not been active for some time, I have decided to nominate it for him. I look forward to addressing your comments, thank you. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 02:21, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Easternsahara, thank you for making this FLC on behalf of me, and I'm glad to see that this nomination has only made the article even better! Yes, I have not been able to maintain a consistent activity for a while as you can tell. I'm going to move out to a new country for study and there's just so much going on, I couldn't afford time for WP even if I wanted to. I hope it's not a burden for you to handle all the comments here, and I think you deserve as much credit as I do. Thanks once again! GeraldWL 04:30, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
Comments
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Since this is an old nom and seems to be pending an additional prose review, I'll do that too:
@MPGuy2824: thanks for another review. Please tell me if I correctly responded to your concerns.User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 23:55, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
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- Support on prose (along with accessibility mentioned above). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:11, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by Richard Nevell
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@Richard Nevell:, I have done everything that you have pointed out. The Jerusalem site didn't have a rationale for endangerment explained on any of the conservation reports. I chose to keep the Doundation for the Defense of Democracies, but if you tell me to I will replace it.
That's my first pass. I think some of the descriptions may need a copy edit. The tweaks to prose that I've suggested are not comprehensive. The article has a good structure and sourcing. It could be enhanced by making reference to academic works on relevant sites (eg: the source I suggested on Hisham's Palace) but I'm unsure if that's a pre-requisite for FLs. While UNESCO's description of Hisham's Palace is a bit out of step with some of the research I've seen, the other stuff conforms with my (admittedly limited) knowledge of some of these sites. Richard Nevell (talk) 18:59, 28 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Courtesy ping of Richard Nevell; this section got a little messy but Easternsahara indicated below that they felt they had addressed all outstanding comments. --PresN 16:00, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the prompt, User:PresN, and apologies to User:Easternsahara for letting this drag on. While I believe the above points have been addressed, I'm on the process of copy editing the site descriptions. I expect to be in a position to declare support this time tomorrow. Richard Nevell (talk) 23:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping of Richard Nevell; this section got a little messy but Easternsahara indicated below that they felt they had addressed all outstanding comments. --PresN 16:00, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
I've finished some copying editing and am happy with the article's accuracy so am switching to support. Richard Nevell (talk) 22:59, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
Image and source review
[edit]Easternsahra agreed to a QPQ for List of Singapore LRT stations, so I might as well get it over with. Icepinner 16:14, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Icepinner:, I have finished adding detailed descriptions and I have addressed the source reviews which Richard Nevell has not already fixed, thanks! 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 12:59, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am passing the source review. My only issue is with File:Palestine Qumran BW 6.jpg; I realise that it needs a detailed description since "Qumran" is not sufficient. Once this has been fixed, I will pass the image review. Icepinner 00:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have added more details @Icepinner: 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:20, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Passing image review. Icepinner 00:28, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have added more details @Icepinner: 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 16:20, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I am passing the source review. My only issue is with File:Palestine Qumran BW 6.jpg; I realise that it needs a detailed description since "Qumran" is not sufficient. Once this has been fixed, I will pass the image review. Icepinner 00:49, 25 September 2025 (UTC)
Image review
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Bit of a pickle here; photographing buildings is allowed under FOP in Palestine, but considering how a template doesn't exist for that on Commons, would it be acceptable for me to pass the image with images having no templates on Palestinian FOP (who would claim copyright for the building considering they're really old buildings, anyways?). Icepinner 16:14, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
@Easternsahara: I'm going to continue this review tomorrow, given it's quite late in Singapore. I have seen some images that need their description parameter expanded per WP:IUP#RI. Please use this time to do so, along with any other images used here. Icepinner 16:14, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Image review (continued)
Some images have their descriptions in Hebrew, German, or Arabic. I have translated each one and will assume in good faith that those translations are accurate. @Easternsahara: I have finished the image review. Please take a look at it. Now for the source review. Icepinner 02:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC) |
Source review
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Earwig[edit]
Spot-check[edit]
More to come, I'm a bit busy at the moment. Icepinner 02:55, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
@Easternsahara: Spot check shows promising results, only 2 concerns. Once all comments have been addressed, I will pass both reviews Icepinner 01:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC) |
Comments from Tone
[edit]Style comment: I changed the column widths in the tables to the values I am currently using. The images could be full 150px so that they are well aligned, since some are landscape and some portrait. In the tentative list, mostly you have governorate as the location but in some cases you have more specific locations - try to be consistent here. I may check the text at a later point but I see there were already some reviewers. Nice work! --Tone 20:39, 9 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Tone:, I have fixed both the location and dates being too specific, now they are consistent with other lists. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 21:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Support, all comments addressed. Tone 08:00, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Just one more thing, other WHS FLs typically have year listed and UNESCO criteria swapped, could you align that? Tone 08:15, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. Easternsaharareview this 20:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Just one more thing, other WHS FLs typically have year listed and UNESCO criteria swapped, could you align that? Tone 08:15, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support, all comments addressed. Tone 08:00, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
@Easternsahara: Do you intend to continue with this nomination? --PresN 12:55, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I will finish this week. I just have to add detailed descriptions to 3 more images and add a little bit more information on Jerusalem 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 21:21, 23 September 2025 (UTC)
- I have now finished, I am just waiting for supports or more comments 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 21:51, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- @PresN: sorry to ping you but Richard Nevell has supported so can this be passed? I have another list to nominate Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 02:10, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- The FLC coordinators close nominations when we get to them, which typically happens a few times a week. Asking coordinators to hurry up and close your nomination is very rude, and asking me to do so in a nomination where I not only had to ping you after you abandoned it for 2 weeks but had to ping a reviewer on your behalf because you didn't do so for over a month is incredibly rude, and asking me to do so for a nomination that has one single support vote for prose (plus passed checks for accessibility/sources/images) is not only incredibly rude, it's incredibly presumptuous. No, I'm not closing this now. Please go get one or two more people to review the content of the list, in whatever manner you see fit, and once they support I'll get around to it next time I do a passthrough. --PresN 03:01, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments by LEvalyn
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Focusing just on the prose here, I have some notes mostly related to flow and idiom:
All right, those are my notes -- for most of the alternative wordings I suggest that's just to give you an idea of the issue I'm noticing, no need to use exactly the phrasing I suggest. All very addressable edits. Just let me know when you've had a chance to go through them. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:03, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
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- @LEvalyn: sorry to bother you but do you have any more comments, if not could you signal your support of this list's promotion? User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 01:34, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping, I missed your reply -- the new version looks good and I am happy to support on the prose. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:00, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- @LEvalyn: sorry to bother you but do you have any more comments, if not could you signal your support of this list's promotion? User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 01:34, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): dxneo (talk) 09:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
South African singer-songwriter Tyla's discography includes one studio album and two EPs. Her self-titled debut album features the singles "Water" which peaked at number 7 on the US Billboard Hot 100 and won the inaugural Grammy Award for Best African Music Performance, as well as other singles such as "Jump" and "Push 2 Start", among others.
This will mark my fifth nom, I guess. dxneo (talk) 09:35, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Accessibility comments
[edit]- The "Music videos" table is missing column scopes.
- The same table has MOS:COLHEAD issues.
- The "Peak chart positions" column needs to have scope=colgroup in most of the tables. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:24, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if I understand the last instruction. I tried to cross check with SZA discography, but still. dxneo (talk) 10:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've just corrected the issue in the SZA discography list. Please look at that and fix the same problem here too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you so much. dxneo (talk) 09:49, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've just corrected the issue in the SZA discography list. Please look at that and fix the same problem here too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if I understand the last instruction. I tried to cross check with SZA discography, but still. dxneo (talk) 10:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:31, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments
[edit]- "Tyla released her debut self-titled studio album on 22 March 2024, which incorporated her digital EP of the same name released on 1 December 2023, it debuted at number 24 on the US Billboard 200 chart" - the second comma should be a semi-colon (or alternatively make that part its own sentence)
- Also does "it debuted" refer to the album or the EP? The wording is ambiguous
- "In 2025, as Tyla prepared for debut mixtape's release" => "In 2025, as Tyla prepared for her debut mixtape's release"
- " She was featured on "When I'm with You by Thai musician" - quote mark at end of song title is missing
- "She remixed WizTheMc's "Show Me Love"" - pretty sure this should be "She sang on a remix of WizTheMc's "Show Me Love"" as I doubt she was the one who did the actual remixing
- "though some noted her Coloured identity might affect her U.S. reception" - I don't think "coloured" needs a capital C mid-sentence
- Coloured is a racial group, it should be in uppercase. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- "In July 2025, Tyla announced a mixtape featuring "Bliss" and "Is It" via social media with a pre-save link." - as this mixtape apparently hasn't been released yet, I would be tempted to move this sentence to the end
- I wanted to structure it the way it was announced and (will/would be) released. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- In the EPs table you give the title of the more recent one as "WWP" but in other tables you refer to it as "We Wanna Party". Which is its actual title?
- My apologies. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- why is the text in the videos tables suddenly smaller? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed. dxneo (talk) 10:22, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:36, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]Some comments on sourcing, not a full review:
- A whole bunch of refs are missing archive links, I suggest running the IA bot.
- These are likely for charts like Billboard, but since the archive doesn't automatically update after a song is added, I removed them. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Refs should be cased consistently as sentence or title per WP:CITEVAR.
- Not sure what this is aimed at. Which refs are in error? dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hyphens used as dashes should be converted to dashes per MOS:CONFORM.
- Done. However, this one is problematic since we copy and paste URLs and title from the source. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Refs 10 and 97 are duplicate.
- Refs 16 and 36 are duplicate.
- Refs 21 and 40 are duplicate.
- Ref 70 is the wrong link.
- Inconsistent use of publisher parameter: some use it, some don't.
- I've only used
|publisher=on refs like this one, since it's clearly stated on the URL/article. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've only used
- Ref 10 should be Rolling Stone, not Rolling stone.
Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 09:02, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Dxneo for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:18, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hello UpTheOctave! I have addressed all the issues you've raised and also left comments were necessary. Thank you for the review. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re: reference casing, per WP:CITEVAR, (part of WP:Citing sources and thus required by WP:FL?), we should use a consistent style of citation capitalisation. After this RfC, consensus was found that just copying the capitalisation used by a source is not a valid citation style. As such, all references should be consistently capitalised, be that in sentence case, title case, or an alternative.
Realistically, this discussion is about whether only title and sentence case are acceptable for reference titles. We explicitly do not have a defined allowable citation style. This will create insane amounts of busy work that does nothing to improve the site, will result in countless additional fights over whether specific terms should be capitalized, restricts editors' freedom, and will only do more to harm the integration of new editors. For what? Because people like certain things and don't like the style others choose to apply consistently? There's plenty of styles I don't like which I recognize as being okay and acceptable. I stand on the side of logic, and what best allows Wikipedia to continue to grow and be improved upon. If we keep forcing ridiculous nitpicky rules like this it just adds more barriers and rules for people to get involved and contribute
I don't believe this is important. No one has time to re-edit all the FAs, FLs, and GAs to correct title case, especially since it doesn't improve the site's quality. To me, it's merely a preference I don't share. Honestly, I'm not willing to fix every "to," "and," "it," and so on in every reference. It's too much work for little benefit. dxneo (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re: publishers, you have references like 8 and 13 that say "The Official South African Charts" for both work and publisher, which is redundant. Besides that, including the publisher parameter should either be done for all references or none; otherwise, we do not have a consistent style of citation as required by WP:CITESTYLE (another part of WP:Citing sources).
- Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 13:11, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- References 8 and 13 were added by a bot, and I didn’t want to intervene, but I’ll remove them. As I mentioned, I’ve only included the publisher for sources that clearly state it. I don’t think consistency applies here. Does this mean I should use {{Cite magazine}} throughout the article for consistency just because I’ve used it multiple times? dxneo (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- I'm happy with the publisher parameter now as the ones that still use it are to differentiate between the website and the publisher. I missed that in my first round; my apologies.
- As for capitalisation, no-one is saying you have to personally go back and edit all old FAs, FLs and GAs. That's not the requirement posed by the FL criteria, which we are evaluating on this article alone. I recognise you agree with Josh on this one, but that opinion was rejected in the RfC I linked. There is a consensus that this is how we should cite sources: no matter how much you disagree it is required by the FL criteria. There exists a userscript (User:ZKang123/TitleCaseConverter) to make this process easier, so the actual workload required is quite limited. Honestly, I agree with you that going back and changing things retroactively would be a waste of time, but that's something to start a new RfC about and not something that pertains to this discussion. Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 22:16, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- I still think that was a bad close that left way too many questions to be answered, and I wish I had challenged it at the time. The close really didn't properly assess that there wasn't a consensus on the matter and the original question was oddly phrased in a way that people focused too much on the aspect of changing an all caps title being what disqualified it from a consistent reference formatting. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- It’s not something that I care enough about to oppose over, but as long as Citing sources states
preserving the capitalization style of each individual source is not considered a consistent style
, this is technically required by the Fl criteria. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 12:18, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- It’s not something that I care enough about to oppose over, but as long as Citing sources states
- I still think that was a bad close that left way too many questions to be answered, and I wish I had challenged it at the time. The close really didn't properly assess that there wasn't a consensus on the matter and the original question was oddly phrased in a way that people focused too much on the aspect of changing an all caps title being what disqualified it from a consistent reference formatting. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:06, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- References 8 and 13 were added by a bot, and I didn’t want to intervene, but I’ll remove them. As I mentioned, I’ve only included the publisher for sources that clearly state it. I don’t think consistency applies here. Does this mean I should use {{Cite magazine}} throughout the article for consistency just because I’ve used it multiple times? dxneo (talk) 20:59, 5 October 2025 (UTC)
- Re: reference casing, per WP:CITEVAR, (part of WP:Citing sources and thus required by WP:FL?), we should use a consistent style of citation capitalisation. After this RfC, consensus was found that just copying the capitalisation used by a source is not a valid citation style. As such, all references should be consistently capitalised, be that in sentence case, title case, or an alternative.
- Hello UpTheOctave! I have addressed all the issues you've raised and also left comments were necessary. Thank you for the review. dxneo (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delegate note: I appreciate UpTheOctave! catching source formatting issues and all the work done for source reviews. I'm not as annoyed about the reference capitalization issue as Josh is, though I also disagreed with the close for that RfC; that said, I ultimately think it's a minor quibble and not a major issue. It doesn't affect readers in any noticeable way. If the only thing in a source review that wasn't done was capitalization issues, I wouldn't hold up the nomination for it. --PresN 12:53, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words, @PresN. Overall, I agree; it's absolutely not something I would oppose a nomination over. I just think that since the guidelines have changed it's important to at least bring it up, as it is technically covered by the criteria now. I like to make a complete survey of sources when reviewing: whether my formatting advice is ultimately implemented isn't a huge deal, and is certainly not as bad as issues with deadlinks or reliability. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, let's get this over with already. UpTheOctave!, would you please make an example out of at least two references (not charts or certifications) as to how I should go about this please? The script isn't helping at all. dxneo (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've changed references 2 and 11 to title case as an example. I tried to get the script to work but oddly it isn't working for me either. To be perfectly honest, I don't really mind whether you revert my examples or change the other references to title case, I'm personally not considering these comments as outstanding for the purposes of promotion. Sorry for the bother. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 23:16, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
Done. dxneo (talk) 13:13, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- I've changed references 2 and 11 to title case as an example. I tried to get the script to work but oddly it isn't working for me either. To be perfectly honest, I don't really mind whether you revert my examples or change the other references to title case, I'm personally not considering these comments as outstanding for the purposes of promotion. Sorry for the bother. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 23:16, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, let's get this over with already. UpTheOctave!, would you please make an example out of at least two references (not charts or certifications) as to how I should go about this please? The script isn't helping at all. dxneo (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words, @PresN. Overall, I agree; it's absolutely not something I would oppose a nomination over. I just think that since the guidelines have changed it's important to at least bring it up, as it is technically covered by the criteria now. I like to make a complete survey of sources when reviewing: whether my formatting advice is ultimately implemented isn't a huge deal, and is certainly not as bad as issues with deadlinks or reliability. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:47, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delegate note: I appreciate UpTheOctave! catching source formatting issues and all the work done for source reviews. I'm not as annoyed about the reference capitalization issue as Josh is, though I also disagreed with the close for that RfC; that said, I ultimately think it's a minor quibble and not a major issue. It doesn't affect readers in any noticeable way. If the only thing in a source review that wasn't done was capitalization issues, I wouldn't hold up the nomination for it. --PresN 12:53, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): GraziePrego (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it to be an interesting topic of a recently-concluded and (in my opinion) interesting election. GraziePrego (talk) 08:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive-by comment
[edit]- Would you mind adding a couple of images to the article (per criteria 5b)? Many of the retiring and elected members have photos on their own pages and it would make the article a lot less text-based. Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:32, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for @GraziePrego Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:33, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Staraction, I've added some images to the retiring members section and made a couple of boxes for the elected senators from the territories, do you think they look ok? I can make equivalent boxes for the elected senators from each state if you think that would look good too. Thank you :) GraziePrego (talk) 01:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- They look good, although you should add alt text to them. There may be other accessibility issues I'm not completely familiar with too; @MPGuy2824 would know more about those than me. Feel free to add images to the senators too! Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:15, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for @GraziePrego. I really should remember to do these in the actual reply more, apologies. Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:16, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think they do have Alt text already? It might not show up in source editing for the retiring images because that's an excerpt from 2025 Australian federal election. GraziePrego (talk) 02:19, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- 👍 I checked. They have alt-texts. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:13, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- They look good, although you should add alt text to them. There may be other accessibility issues I'm not completely familiar with too; @MPGuy2824 would know more about those than me. Feel free to add images to the senators too! Staraction (talk | contribs) 02:15, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @Staraction, I've added some images to the retiring members section and made a couple of boxes for the elected senators from the territories, do you think they look ok? I can make equivalent boxes for the elected senators from each state if you think that would look good too. Thank you :) GraziePrego (talk) 01:54, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping for @GraziePrego Staraction (talk | contribs) 16:33, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
History6042
[edit]I will get a review in soon, History6042😊 (Contact me) 12:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @History6042 I think this fell through the cracks. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead. - Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Yearbecomes!scope=col | Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. - Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987becomes!scope=row | 1987(on its own line). If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use!scope=rowgroup
instead. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:24, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @MPGuy2824, I believe I have completed those changes. GraziePrego (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Bolding of text wouldn't be read by a screen reader. You'll have to mark incumbency (sitting members) and wins with different symbols.
- rowscopes are needed for the "Summary by party" and "Disendorsements and resignations" tables too.
- I wasn't a fan of the raw html in the Senate tables, so I tried replacing it in one of the cells with a template. Feel free to revert if you don't like it or it doesn't work for some reason.
- The tables in the "Senate" section aren't standard tables (e.g. in the ACT subsection there, the first column isn't for "Sustainable Australia" only). I don't know how to overcome this (without changing the table structure), but maybe PresN might have a suggestion. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:03, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Incumbency and wins are now marked with symbols, will do other changes. GraziePrego (talk) 07:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Rowscopes done and I'm fine with your template in the Senate tables :) I'll wait a little bit to see if PresN has a suggestion about how to change the Senate tables that have been done in a slightly unusual way :) GraziePrego (talk) 07:45, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
Rowscopes done
You still need to do it for the "Summary by party" table. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:13, 20 August 2025 (UTC)- Done, thank you GraziePrego (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- The problem here is that the information isn't really a table (the columns have nothing to do with every row), you're just sticking boxes next to each other so that it doesn't take up a million rows in one skinny table. There's a way to indicate that it isn't a "data" table but a "presentation" table - (MOS:LTAB). I converted one table as an example. You add role=presentation to the table, drop the caption, change all '!' to '|', and since that killed the styling of the party cells I added in some. Just do the same for the rest of the Senate tables and I think you're good. --PresN 12:41, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done, thank you for showing me that example one :) GraziePrego (talk) 02:22, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Rowscopes done and I'm fine with your template in the Senate tables :) I'll wait a little bit to see if PresN has a suggestion about how to change the Senate tables that have been done in a slightly unusual way :) GraziePrego (talk) 07:45, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Incumbency and wins are now marked with symbols, will do other changes. GraziePrego (talk) 07:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you @MPGuy2824, I believe I have completed those changes. GraziePrego (talk) 10:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:11, 6 October 2025 (UTC)
Source review (10/19/25)
[edit]I will do the source review for this article. I may also make other comments as I go through the article, but the focus will be on the sources.
- Spot check of sources
- No. 1 – checks out
- No. 8 – checks out
- No. 14 – checks out
- No. 21 – checks out (the article is behind a paywall, but the limited text visible before the paywall confirms the man's name and retirement)
The table for the Australian Capital Territory cites no sources at all to verify any of the information provided.
- No. 25 – checks out
None of these subsequent tables cite any sources at all. Where are you getting all of this information?
Note: Tables do appear to properly formatted per MOS:ACCESS, which is appreciated! There are table captions, which are set to screen-reader only, appropriate column and row scopes, and cells which utilize colored backgrounds also convey that information via other means.
This is going to sound pedantic as hell, but you have some instances where you use an oxford comma, and others where you do not. I would choose one style and use it consistently. At the same time, I would not hold up any nomination over a matter of comma usage.
- No. 30 – 404. You'll need an archive for this source.
None of the text in the Senate/New South Wales subsection is sourced. In fact, only the Australian Capital Territory subsection appears to be sourced.
Is the table in under Summary by party a tabulation of the information provided in the information above?
- No. 32 – checks out
- No. 36 – checks out
- No. 44 – Recommend you reformat this source using [[Template: Cite tweet]]. Otherwise checks out.
- No. 50 – checks out
- No. 51 – checks out
- No. 61 – checks out
- No. 77 – checks out
In the table under Disendorsements and resignations, if the text under Details is not a complete sentence, it should not end with a period. For example, the very first line: "Resigned due to family illness" – That is not a sentence and should not end with a period. A cursory examination shows that most of these are not sentences.
Other comments regarding formatting of sources:
- Source no. 1 – wikilink The Guardian
- Source no. 3 – wikilink Australian Electoral Commission
I'm not going to go through all of these. Many of the sources have the publication wikilinked, and some do not. You should wikilink the ones that are not for consistency.
Several sources are missing archives.
- Source no. 76 – Even if the source gives the titles in all capitals, Wikipedia style precludes that.
Sources no. 47 and 49 use the Twitter style I mentioned above, so you can adapt source no. 44 to it.
User:GraziePrego: There are several issues here which I have brought up. The most glaring is the lack of sourcing for most of the tables. The rest is less important, but will also need to be addressed before I can support this for FL or sign off on the source review. Please let me know if you have any questions. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:53, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:54, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating List of governors of Bauchi State for Featured List status. The article presents a comprehensive chronological record of all military and civilian governors of the state from its creation in 1976 to the present. It is well-structured in a clear tabular format, supported by reliable references, and remains stable without rapid changes or disputes. The list meets the Featured List criteria of being comprehensive, well-written, verifiable, and stable, and I believe it merits recognition as a Featured List. Ibjaja055 (talk) 18:54, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
Reading Beans
[edit]I am reviewing this version
- Source review
- Passed.
- Reliable enough for the information being cited — pass
- Consistent date formatting — pass
- Consistent and proper reference formatting — pass
- Appropriate wikilinks where applicable — pass
- Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for — pass
I’ll get this done before 24-48-hours. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 12:58, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- The Infobox says that the Governor can be addressed as “The Honourable”. I am not really into politics but isn’t this title reserved for members of the legislative body? I would encourage you to cite informations in the Infobox. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 13:00, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Thank you very much for your review. I have fixed it, kindly have a look now.Ibjaja055 (talk) 12:57, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- There are a lot of unsourced information here and it’s making it hard to review (for me). I advise @Ibjaja055 to go through the article and fix the sourcing issues so that the body supports the lede. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 15:33, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans I have fixed the issue with the use of proper in-line citations and I have also either removed or replaced some marginally reliable reliable references. Can you check again? Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 05:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- There’s no page number in Ref2. Also wikilink Cambridge University Press. Also, since it’s a book change the date to
|year=2019 - Add
|8 June 2023|newspaper=Premium Timesto Ref3. - Change the newspaper parameter on Ref4 to
|newspaper=The Guardian - Wikilink African Economic History in Ref5
- You need to clarify that Ref6 is dissertation (see WP:THESIS). Use {{Cite thesis}}.
- Add
|year=2020to Ref7. - Change the newspaper parameter in Ref8 to
|newspaper=Business Day - I don’t know the reliability of Neptune Prime. Can you shed some light on it or better still, replace it?
- Wikilink The New York Times in Ref10.
- Wikilink Channels Television in Ref11.
- Wikilink TheCable in Ref12.
- Change the newspaper parameter in
|newspaper=Blueprintin Ref13 and Ref14. - Ref15: the newspaper’s name is in the title. Seperate them and add
|newspaper=Daily Trustto the cite template. - Add a date to Ref16 and change the newspaper parameter to
|newspaper=Premium Times - Wikilink TheCable in Ref17.
- Remove the
|location=in Ref18. - Remove the author parameter in Ref19 and use
|website=Ecoi.netin the website parameter. - Use
|newspaper=Vanguardin Ref21&22. - Change the newspaper parameter to Premium Times in Ref33&34.
- Change the newspaper parameter in Ref35 to ThisDay.
This is all for now before I move to the next. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 13:52, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans I have duly effected all the corrections. Thank you for the review. Can you take a look now? Ibjaja055 (talk) 16:28, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have fixed the remaining issues. I’ll do the spot checks later tonight. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:51, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Ibjaja055, I couldn’t do the spotchecks as promised due to real life issues. From my spotchecks, only Ref1 failed verification. It made no mention of the Government House, being the residence of the governor. I believe there are sources out there that can verify this. Another suggestion; the first Northern Region section dived into a lot of federal politics that does not belong to this list. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:20, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans I have fixed your recommendation and I have also removed the failed source along with the claim. Can you check again now? Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 04:59, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Ibjaja055, I couldn’t do the spotchecks as promised due to real life issues. From my spotchecks, only Ref1 failed verification. It made no mention of the Government House, being the residence of the governor. I believe there are sources out there that can verify this. Another suggestion; the first Northern Region section dived into a lot of federal politics that does not belong to this list. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:20, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have fixed the remaining issues. I’ll do the spot checks later tonight. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 16:51, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
Support on sources. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
Support from VWF
[edit]- First subsection of the list needs to be "Northern Region"
- Second subsection needs to be "North-Eastern State"
- Third needs to be "Bauchi State"
- Change table title of Bauchi State list from "Military, administrators and civilian governors of Bauchi State, Nigeria" to "Heads of the government of Bauchi State"
- Change table title of Northeastern State list from "Military Administrators of the Northeastern Region, Nigeria" to "Military administrators of the Northeastern Region"
- Website name of Citation number 18 needs to be "European Country of Origin Information Network"
- Change the
|title=of citation number 22 from PROFILE to Profile. - Do the same for citation number 10
- For citation number 6, modify the lastnames of the authors, their last names are Ota, Ecoma and Wambu. Either remove the initials entirely or add them to the firstnames instead.
- For citation number 14, remove the "Daily Trust" in the title.
- In both tables, remove the "No" column; it serves no purpose.
- The "! scope="row"" in the No. column before, add it to the Governors' name such that, for the Governors' name, you now have
! scope="row" |Rasheed Adisa Raji. Take note that I removed the boldface from the name. This makes it clear that this is the primary column. - The Bauchi State list table is pretty confusing. The "Notes" column serves no purpose. The political parties also need to be cited. Why not adopt the methods used in other similar lists, as in List of governors of Rivers State? Or remove the Note column and replace it with Political Party. The Tenure needs to be cited too, just repeat the citations in the prose that verify it. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:21, 24 September 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Ibjaja055 for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh thank you for pinging me. I will review and get back ASAP! Ibjaja055 (talk) 22:32, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces I have reviewed and updated the article with your recommendations. Can you check now?
- Courtesy re-ping of Vanderwaalforces; note that the original ping was never sent- you have to sign the edit that you tag someone or it doesn't ping them for some reason. --PresN 13:12, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, @PresN. More comments below, @Ibjaja055. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @Ibjaja055 for follow up. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- For North-Eastern State list, the Note column is not sourced; we need sources to be cited.
- For Bauchi State list, the Political parties column is still not fine. In short, the comments (The first military governor of Bauchi State and The first civilian governor of Bauchi State under the) are not necessary. Let's have this as purely Political party column. You can use template efn for the last comment, don't forget to add a ==Notes== section after the See also section when you use efn. Also, take note that I mentioned "Political party" and not "Political parties", so change that.
- For He was succeeded by Isa Yuguda, initially elected under the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP) in 2007, wikilink All Nigeria Peoples Party.
- We currently do not know what NRC stands for
- In North-Eastern State list, "The first Military Governor of the...", needs to be "The first military governor of the..."
- Change table title of Northeastern State list from "Military administrators of the Northeastern Region" to "Military administrators of North-Eastern State", the same way you named the subsection title.
- In all tables, "Military Governor" should be "Military governor"; "Military Administrator" should be "Military administrator"; and "Civilian Governor" should be "Civilian governor".
- Several other parameters in the infobox are missing; see similar lists.
Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:11, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces I am currently working on your observations and I will reach ASAP! Ibjaja055 (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces I am done with your observations. Can you check now? Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 07:50, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- LGTM, thank you for your work, all-round support. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:58, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
Accessibility comments
[edit]- The portrait columns should be unsortable and the data-sort value should be applied to the name column.
- The notes column should also be unsortable.
- The images in the infobox need alt-texts.
- Many of the refs are missing archive links. Run IABot on the list. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:39, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I have attended to all your observations except for the one with the internet archive bot which is not responding to the title of the page. Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:38, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- I managed to get IABot working on this list. It does seem to act up from time to time.
- While fixing the portrait column issue, you seem to have removed the row scopes. Please re-add them back. Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear.
- There is a gap from 1999 to 2015 in the last table.
- This nomination is 2 months old. Let's get it over the finish line soon. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:34, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I will work on it now. Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:36, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824I have added the the row scopes back and I have also addressed the gaps too. Please, kindly check again. Thank you.Ibjaja055 (talk) 22:54, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- For the "Bauchi State" table, you again added the data-sort parameter to the portrait cells. Since that is an unsortable column, that parameter should move to the name column. Alternatively you can eliminate its use completely and just use the {{sortname}} template.
- I've changed the Isa Yuguda row to use two rows since he was in 2 different parties during his tenure. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:31, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 can you check now please? Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 13:36, 27 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824I have added the the row scopes back and I have also addressed the gaps too. Please, kindly check again. Thank you.Ibjaja055 (talk) 22:54, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- @MPGuy2824 I will work on it now. Thank you. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:36, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Support on accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:07, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
Image review
[edit]- File:BAUCHI state coat.png - CC BY-SA 4.0 (does not cite any sources, can you confirm that it is in use and accurate?)
- File:Flag of the Bauchi Emirate.svg - CC BY-SA 3.0 same question as above
- File:Nigeria Bauchi State map.png - CC BY-SA 3.0
- File:Brig. Musa Usman.png - PD
- File:Nigerian Public Domain 144.jpg - PD
- File:Muhammed Abubakar.png - CC BY-SA 4.0
- Garba Duba and Rasheed Adisa Raji have portraits which can be used as they are CC
- Tatari Ali and Mohammed Kaliel have fair use portraits which I think can be used, as they were used by similar southern nigeria governor lists.
- link first instance of North-Eastern State
- Please add alts to the flag and coat of arms saying "See caption"
- Change alt of Map from "Map of Nigeria showing Bauchi State" to "Bauchi State is located in northeastern Nigeria" per MOS:ALTMAP
- Add short alttexts for each of the portraits briefly describing the appearance of the leaders. You may be able to copy from their respective articles if those are good
@Ibjaja055: thank you for your work on this list, I have pinged you so you can see these comments and those above, by MPGuy. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 01:58, 25 October 2025 (UTC)
- @Easternsahara The image was used in the in the Bauchi State article. The Flag of the Bauchi emirate is not the same as the Bauchi state so I have removed it. All other pictures have been added except for two that violates the non free use rationale and have been removed by bot. The alttexts have been added to the map and images too. Thank you for your time. Ibjaja055 (talk) 22:49, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- pass image review, please consider reviewing either Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World Heritage Sites in Arab States/archive1 it only has 1 image and only 2 paragraphs of text. thank you User:Easternsaharaplease review this and this 23:00, 26 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator(s): JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 23:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
This article is a station list for the corresponding Great Northern route, which I created about a month ago and have been working on since. This is my first FLC so do let me know if I have done / am doing anything wrong. Thanks in advance, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 23:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
Placeholder
[edit]- I'll do a full review shortly but one drive-by comment:
Italicised lines are those that are not constituent parts of the Great Northern route.
is not compliant with accessibility requirements because screen readers used by people with vision issues won't read out that the text is italicised -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:37, 17 August 2025 (UTC)- Any suggestions as to an alternative? Quite difficult to think of a way of doing it that's accessible but not obtrusive. The article does mention the constituent lines (Cambridge line, East Coast Main Line, Fen line, Hertford Loop line, Northern City line) and if you want I can repeat that before the start of each table as clarification for those unable to know where the italics are. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 19:06, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- You can use a symbol instead of/in addition to the italics. See List of municipalities in Jaén which uses a color and a symbol. Make sure to use a legend too when you do this. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done as a symbol before each line and no more italics.
- I wouldn't say a colour is necessary but a symbol would work -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Any suggestions as to an alternative? Quite difficult to think of a way of doing it that's accessible but not obtrusive. The article does mention the constituent lines (Cambridge line, East Coast Main Line, Fen line, Hertford Loop line, Northern City line) and if you want I can repeat that before the start of each table as clarification for those unable to know where the italics are. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 19:06, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
More comments
[edit]- Link all the stations named in the lead
- Done
- "Govia Thameslink Railway only share eight stations [...] this will rise to six" - maths doesn't seem to be right here
- Fixed
- "confirmed to have funded allocated to them" - funding, surely?
- Fixed
- "Half of the eighteen stations that have been closed did so" => "Half of the eighteen stations that have closed did so" (passive/active verbs don't work as it stands)
- Fixed
- "London Borough of Enfieldno surface" looks odd and I presume is a typo of some kind
- Fixed
- Notes d, f, j are not sentences so doesn't need full stops
- Done
- There are some duplicate notes which can be combined -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:25, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Fixed
Hope that's everything. Thanks for the comments and let me know anything else that needs doing. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:28, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting
|+ caption_text
as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting|+ {{sronly|caption_text}}
instead.- Done
- Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding
!scope=col
to each header cell, e.g.! Yearbecomes!scope=col | Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use!scope=colgroup
instead. Some of your columns have this, but not all.- Done
- Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding
!scope=row
to each primary cell, e.g.| 1987becomes!scope=row | 1987(on its own line). If
the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup
instead.
- Done
- Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:27, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please check I've done it all correctly as I'm inexperienced with tables. Thanks for the comments, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please wikilink the Listing column header.
- Support on table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:32, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please check I've done it all correctly as I'm inexperienced with tables. Thanks for the comments, JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 17:03, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Drive by comments by Mattximus
[edit]- Surely a featured list on a route should have a map of the route? Is there any metro map style maps available? I feel this is a critical piece for this list to pass. Mattximus (talk) 16:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- The map on Great Northern route is wrong; I will make a new one now. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 20:45, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
- Done. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
Comment
[edit]- Please add {{dts}} to the date cells, as sorting seems to be broken (especially in the Former stations table). SounderBruce 23:58, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
- Done; table sorting is fixed. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:47, 8 September 2025 (UTC)
Octave
[edit]I'll do the source review for this one, poke me if I don't post anything in a couple days. UpTheOctave! • 8va? 22:29, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
Reviewed Special:Permalink/1312492792
Reliability
- What makes this particular newsletter from RailFuture a reliable source?
- It is a publication by the staff of what I would consider a reliable source – RailFuture is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article and is a fairly prominent advocacy group. The only other way to reference it would be a
{{refn}}with the two timetables showing the change, but that seems a bit sloppy and like WP:SYNTH.
- It is a publication by the staff of what I would consider a reliable source – RailFuture is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article and is a fairly prominent advocacy group. The only other way to reference it would be a
- What makes Disused Stations a reliable source?
- Disused Stations is used quite widely on Wikipedia as a source. It is not self-published or wiki-like as the average person cannot contribute to it without that information being cleared by their editorial team. That level of independent scrutiny (as opposed to a blog or wiki) is what, in my opinion, makes it RS. The only crucial information it is used for is the relevant dates for Tempsford station; as a temporary instalment, it is omitted by R Butt. I could not find a DMY date for Holme hence the use of disused stations; the idea of it opening with the line is also verified by its own article.
- Other sources look fine for reliability.
Consistency
- Inconsistent use of archive links for websites.
- Inconsistent linking of websites and publishers. Note that WP:DUPLINK does not apply to reference sections.
- Inconsistent use of publisher parameter for book sources.
- Inconsistent casing of reference titles, please use sentence or title case per WP:CITEVAR.
- Standardised to sentence case
- Inconsistent segmentation of ISBNs.
- Standardised as 978-0000000000
- Inconsistent use of Govia Thameslink Railway vs. Great Northern for pages on the same website.
- Fixed (I think)
- Date format looks consistent.
Other comments
- Since you've used archive links, {{cite web}} presumes the links are dead. For those that are still live, please add
|url-status=live. - Ref 2: needs page number.
- Not available via google books, hence the chapter no. as an alternative. Had a look and I can't get it from a local library either.
- Ref 5: where are you seeing 31 March 2010 here? I can only see the month and year.
- No idea, replaced with 'march 2010' per page 41.
- Ref 6: similarly, where are you seeing a date?
- The map says "2 February 2025" on it when you open the pdf.
- Ref 8: ditto above.
- 18 May 2025 was the most recent timetable change and when that one was released. GTR legally have to release a 'new' timetable twice a year even if all the train times are the same.
- Ref 10: where are you seeing an author.
- No idea, think it was generated by Zotero and I didn't realise
- Ref 11: gives a 404.
- Replaced
- Ref 12: link Railfuture.
- Done
- Ref 14: missing authors.
- Done
- Ref 15: June is not the date of publication, merely the latest news.
- Removed (it's updated since anyway)
- Ref 18: I think ISBN would suffice as far as identifiers go; can probably drop the "ltd." from publisher.
- Done
- Ref 19: I would link Cambridgeshire Live.
- Done
- Ref 45: link London Transport (brand).
- Done
- Ref 46: missing author.
- Added
- Ref 47: no need to repeat British Transport Commission.
- Removed
- Ref 51: missing page numbers.
- Replaced with other references as I could not access the page numbers.
Sorry that it took so long - I have been very busy irl unfortunately. I've had some edit-conflict issues with myself (don't ask) so just check it has all worked as I'm happy to redo any bits that haven't come through. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 47: ISBN is throwing an error now. Still a bit uneasy on Disused Stations. Where do you see their editorial policy? I can only find an about page that seems to confirm this is self-published. If so, what makes Catford a SME? UpTheOctave! • 8va? 13:55, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Spotchecks will be done after these comments are dealt with, as some references may need to be removed. Best, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 17:26, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Ref 1: pass
- Ref 5: pass
- Ref 6: pass
- Ref 10: fail, says nothing about Tempsford
- Ref 15: pass
- Ref 16: pass
- Ref 19: pass
- Ref 22: pass
- Ref 24: pass
- Ref 26: pass
- Ref 28: pass
- Ref 31: pass
- Ref 48: pass
- Ref 52: fail, date not found
- Thanks, UpTheOctave! • 8va? 14:18, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- @JacobTheRox: I fixed the ISBN error on ref 47, but I'm going to second UpTheOctave's concern about Disused Stations. This really appears to be a group hobby site; they cite their sources, which is good, but I can't find any proof of editorial policy (as opposed to whoever is on their facebook group being allowed to just write up a station and send it in to be listed as-is). I'm willing to be persuaded if you can find some indication of reliability (editorial policy, being cited in RSs, etc.) --PresN 01:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- I have replaced Trumpington's Disused Stations reference with a book that is (probably) more reliable. I can't find anything else on Holme on the internet however hard I try, and Butt's Directory of Railway Stations does not even give an opening year. I think it is better to have an opening date from a source with slightly lower editorial standards than no opening date at all. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 10:06, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- Hi @JacobTheRox, few final issues:
- It looks like refs 6 and 9 are duplicate now; they should be combined
- Refs 20 and 53 are also duplicate
- Refs 1, 12, 13, 14, 22, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 36, 37, 38, 39 and 44 still have no archive links
- Butt (1995) still has a location
- Per WP:V, I consider this discussion a challenge to the verifiability of the Holme station opening date. As such, unless you can find a reliable source, I will not pass this review unless the opening date is removed. I'd recommend looking at historical newspapers in Norfolk and Cambridgeshire; the BNA would be useful for this.
- UpTheOctave! • 8va? 15:31, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
- @JacobTheRox:: Looks like The London, Midland and Scottish Railway Volume Two: Preston to Carlisle, Stanley C. Jenkins, Martin Loader
- Amberley Publishing, 2015, 978-1-4456-4414-1, section "Burton and Holme"
- (google books link), says that it opened September 1846. Not a perfect source, but the author is a museum curator and it's a real publisher, not a vanity press. --PresN 13:00, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry PresN, but Burton and Holme railway station is in Cumbria, whereas the station in question is in Norfolk. A funny coincidence that they opened in the same month.
. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 09:08, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will check Newspapers.com when I get home this evening. They have lots of British newspapers archived. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- My search at Newspapers.com didn't turn up anything. Sorry. 🙁 Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:56, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will check Newspapers.com when I get home this evening. They have lots of British newspapers archived. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:29, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry PresN, but Burton and Holme railway station is in Cumbria, whereas the station in question is in Norfolk. A funny coincidence that they opened in the same month.
- Hi @JacobTheRox, few final issues:
- I have replaced Trumpington's Disused Stations reference with a book that is (probably) more reliable. I can't find anything else on Holme on the internet however hard I try, and Butt's Directory of Railway Stations does not even give an opening year. I think it is better to have an opening date from a source with slightly lower editorial standards than no opening date at all. JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 10:06, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
- @JacobTheRox: I fixed the ISBN error on ref 47, but I'm going to second UpTheOctave's concern about Disused Stations. This really appears to be a group hobby site; they cite their sources, which is good, but I can't find any proof of editorial policy (as opposed to whoever is on their facebook group being allowed to just write up a station and send it in to be listed as-is). I'm willing to be persuaded if you can find some indication of reliability (editorial policy, being cited in RSs, etc.) --PresN 01:35, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/7/25)
[edit]- "Great Northern manage all except eight..." I would rephrase as "Great Northern manages..." (the company is a collective singular).
- Done
- You might choose to explain what Grade I and Grade II signify with regard to Listed buildings. Readers shouldn't have to navigate to another page to understand the basics of this distinction.
- Done
- The table appears to be nicely set up with great photos where available.
User:JacobTheRox: This is a very interesting list! Bgsu98 (Talk) 13:36, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comments! JacobTheRox(talk | contributions) 21:07, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
Support. Hopefully we’ll see future lists like this one come through FLC. 😃 Bgsu98 (Talk) 15:24, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
Nominations for removal
[edit]Ancillary TV season block nominations
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The following nominations do not require comments, but are included for bookkeeping purposes. The discussion of each TV season list takes place at the respective "season 1" nomination below.
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:50, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:52, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:54, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
The discussion for this nomination is happening here. Do not leave comments on this page. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:55, 7 October 2025 (UTC) |
- Notified: User talk:CALR, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject English Language
Article has had an orange tag for a year and most of the entries are not properly cited and many entries are not even English words. I see no evidence of WP:NLIST being met either. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:32, 14 October 2025 (UTC)
- Can you explain what you mean by "not even English words"? Various brand names do keep getting added (despite the article explaining why this is pointless) so that needs cleaning up, but otherwise I believe this article is still pretty well supported. calr (talk) 23:06, 15 October 2025 (UTC)
- QBIK, qianzhousaurus, q.i.d., and Qiero for example. Traumnovelle (talk) 00:27, 16 October 2025 (UTC)
Delegate note: not added to FLRC page until October 28. --PresN 11:38, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: Matthewedwards, WikiProject Television
Continuing with TV season nominations (see the recent FLRC log), this article is being nominated for FLRC as the consensus has shifted to promoting these lists through GAN/FAC. This nomination also covers seasons 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 of the show. This nomination is not intended to discuss the articles' quality, but they may require work before reaching GA quality. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:47, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delist. Television seasons being nominated as featured lists are from a bygone era, so these should be removed. I don't even believe these would meet current FL criteria standards (or GA for that matter). - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:48, 9 October 2025 (UTC)
- Delist, I would prefer if the FLC coordinators could just delist them all, as consensus has been made and upheld thus far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easternsahara (talk • contribs) 01:54, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- In my view, there's two main reasons for this approach: (1) creating nomination pages makes it easier for the bot to delist everything, and (2) the nominations will appear on various alert pages, so other editors less involved in FLs can't claim the removals were done "in secret" or "out of procedure". RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:23, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: Killervogel5, Staxringold, WikiProject Baseball
I am nominating this for featured list removal because items in this list mostly read as a record of career achievements. But the award, as the name states, is given for a specific "historic achievement".
For example, the Sammy Sosa row mentions his 1998 MVP, 66 home runs, and three career 60 home run seasons. But it does NOT mention the actual historic achievement for which Sosa was specifically given the award: hitting 62 home runs, which tied McGwire for the single-season home run record and passed the longstanding Roger Maris record of 61. The McGwire row was similar until I recently changed it to refer specifically to his 62nd home run.
Ohtani's row is a large summary of his four-year career, but barely mentions why he was actually awarded the trophy in 2001. The trophy was awarded not for his 2018 Rookie of the Year, 2019 Tommy John surgery, or 2021 MVP. It was awarded by the Commissioner for "becoming the sport’s first two-way All-Star — starting in the All-Star game as both a pitcher and a designated hitter."
This list does not comprehensively cover the subject and its defined scope. PK-WIKI (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator Killervogel5 is long gone. Page creator me can step in some. You're right that many of the descriptions need to be changed. The Sosa row includes things that happened after he received the award. I found that MLB.com does have a list of the specific achievements the award is given for:
- 2021: Shohei Ohtani for his historic season as a two-way player, including starting the All-Star Game as both a pitcher and designated hitter.
- 2014: The retiring Derek Jeter for his numerous all-time postseason records (hits, runs, total bases).
- 2014: Vin Scully on his 65 years of service to baseball.
- 2013: Mariano Rivera, who retired as the all-time saves leader.
- 2011: Ken Griffey Jr., on his great career in baseball and for being one of the most popular players of all-time.
- 2007: Rachel Robinson, on the 60th anniversary of her husband’s breaking of the color barrier and for her advancement of his legacy.
- 2006: Roberto Clemente, posthumously, during the 2006 All-Star Game in Pittsburgh and presented to his wife, Vera, and their family.
- 2005: Ichiro Suzuki for his record-breaking hit total achieved in the 2004 season, surpassing George Sisler.
- 2004: Roger Clemens for his 300th win and record Cy Young Award total.
- 2001: The Seattle Mariners for their record-tying 116-win regular season.
- 2001: The retiring Tony Gwynn for his record-tying eight NL batting titles.
- 2001: Rickey Henderson for his all-time career records in stolen bases, walks and runs.
- 2001: Barry Bonds for his single-season home run record.
- 1998: Both Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa for their record-breaking single-season home run-record chase.
- 1998: Cal Ripken Jr. in commemoration of the end of his legendary Iron Man streak.
- Some of these are very specific. Others (Griffey especially) are more broad. Clemente's doesn't directly mention his achievements at all, and the contemporaneous reference just broadly talks about how great he was. I agree this can be improved and perhaps I can achieve that to save FL status. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:33, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- There's a mistake there on Ripken. He ended his streak in 1998, but got the award in 2001, not 1998. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:43, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- That MLB page is ok as a broad overview, but somewhat incorrect in the specifics.
"1998: Both Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa for their record-breaking single-season home run-record chase."
Not really. It was awarded to McGwire the day he hit 62. Then awkwardly awarded to Sosa the next week for tying 62. But by the time the trophy was awarded, McGwire had already passed him again. The MLB page somewhat indicates it was an end-of-season dual award for "the chase" rather than for the specific "historic achievements". PK-WIKI (talk) 17:47, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- That MLB page is ok as a broad overview, but somewhat incorrect in the specifics.
- There's a mistake there on Ripken. He ended his streak in 1998, but got the award in 2001, not 1998. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:43, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: RandomCritic, Kwamikagami, WikiProject Astronomy
I am nominating this for featured list removal because the prose in this 'list' completely outnumbers the list by orders of magnitude, this is probably Featured Article or at least Good Article worthy, but definitely not a FL due to failing the list part of the criteria. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 04:34, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Other concerns that I have with this list is that the entire first paragraph of the Moons of Jupiter#List section is unreferenced. Various parts of the Moons of Jupiter#Exploration section are also unreferenced. In addition, the "Visual observations" and "Photographic and spacecraft observations" are both quite short and break up the flow of the text. According to the MOS, these should probably be merged for better flow. Moons of Jupiter#Naming the third paragraph is quite short, and should be merged and it also uncited. The images are also not accesible as there aren't altexts for them. The second half of the Moons of Jupiter#Characteristics section is also uncited. There isn't a table header for screen reader accessibility either. Also note that this probably has the possibility for expansion, and a lot of the sources which this article depends heavily on could be updated. Keep in mind if all of these things are resolved, my point about the format still stands.🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- For similar reasons I would also like to nominate the following lists: Moons of Saturn, Moons of Uranus, Moons of Neptune 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 11:38, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- That we allow multi-nominations for media season lists while we work through them is a special, agreed upon case; this nomination cannot cover multiple lists. --PresN 11:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, I understand. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- That we allow multi-nominations for media season lists while we work through them is a special, agreed upon case; this nomination cannot cover multiple lists. --PresN 11:44, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- Note: the 97-row table is scrollable; if you turn that off so that it can fill out vertically (and horizontally), the prose to table ratio is about 60%/40%, or 55/45 if you make the font full-sized. Also note that you have to actually notify the people/projects that you list above, not just put their names here; I did not see any evidence that you did. --PresN 11:42, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
- I think the list part of the article is rather overshadowed by its other things, which it would be incomplete without. Perhaps a list sub-article could be broken out but I do not think that this currently is a format "that lends itself to list format". Also thank you for pointing out that I have not notified people, but I did notify RandomCritic and Kwamikagami. Although I did not initially notify the WikiProject, I have done so now. 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 03:55, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
- Remove. This is a great article, but not a good list. I agree that it may be worth considering nomination as a featured article. The same applies to Moons of Saturn, Moons of Uranus and Moons of Neptune, even if we may need to discuss those separately. Must we though? These lists are so similar, I kind of support Easternsahara's wish to discuss them in bulk, even if that's not technically possible. I don't want to be forced to have the same discussion four times. Renerpho (talk) 19:24, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: EF5, Easternsahara, ActuallyElite, WikiProject Weather
I've nominated this list because I don't believe it was properly scrutinized during the review process and simply is not up to FL levels as of right now. See Talk:List of Iowa tornadoes for more specifics, but what's on the table as I type this are a large table cited to a user-generated source (or one that can't be proved not to be UGC, anyway), a significant lack of comprehension listing of data that does exist in reliable sources and can be put together in an afternoon, arbitrary inclusion candidates, and general weird formatting throughout, especially in image placement and citations in the lede, the sort I wouldn't expect from featured content. Departure– (talk) 23:31, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- To clarify a few points:
- By "arbitrary", I mean the line in the sand being "intense tornadoes" being the only ones included and all others being completely discarded. No reason for this is given in the article itself.
- Typically, lists that include large amounts of tornadoes draw the line at "intense tornadoes" (F3/equivalent), such as Tornadoes in Oklahoma, but again, no reason given. The only actual line I could think of a justification for would be "significant tornadoes" (F2/equivalent), as those are what expert of tornado record-keeping Thomas P. Grazulis uses in his Significant tornadoes line of books.
- In addition, this list is missing numerous tornadoes within the "intense" range.
- Details about my UGC concern are further detailed at Talk:List of Iowa tornadoes#Tornado Paths source, but the short version is that a source cited in a table is listed as published by ArcGIS with no credits. ArcGIS is a software at the end of the day, and while it likely was produced by a reliable source (NWS or NOAA), there's no evidence beyond anecdotal comments about the scale of the source.
- In addition, the source is almost certainly a tertiary source to be avoided in favor of a more focused source.
- There is some weird formatting right outside the lede. The lede itself also doesn't follow MOS:LEDE, with information in the opening not present in the body (though, with a citation).
- Sourcing in general has been brought up on the talk page as being far from featured-level. One was revealed to likely be a blog.
- More details than I can provide quickly here can be found on the article's talk page at the anchor Talk:List of Iowa tornadoes#What in the heck?. Departure– (talk) 23:45, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- One more note: List of Iowa tornadoes is currently scheduled to appear as Today's featured list starting October 6. Departure– (talk) 23:48, 29 September 2025 (UTC)
- Delist per my talk page comments. As much as I hate to delist an article as recent as this, it simply isn’t up to par. EF5 01:56, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
- Update - I have been adding tornadoes over the past week from the Thomas P. Grazulis source, I am still working on completing the list. I changed the intense tornadoes meaning and put it as F3+ rated tornadoes. I removed both non reliable sources that were mentioned and replaced them with reliable ones. I do still have some work to do with adding tornadoes in the tables, but it is in the right direction. ActuallyElite (talk) 17:38, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
- Wait ActuallyElite is actively working to address these problems so I think we should give them a chance to work on it. I admit I was somewhat careless with the source review but it had improved much since this nomination was started. Thanks, 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 Easternsahara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 06:16, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
- By "arbitrary", I mean the line in the sand being "intense tornadoes" being the only ones included and all others being completely discarded. No reason for this is given in the article itself.
Comments from Bgsu98 (10/10/25)
[edit]I don't care much for some of the comments I've read surrounding this list. "How in God's name...?" Save it. I was one of the reviewers on this FLC and spent a lot of time assisting User:ActuallyElite with the style and prose, because the original text was pretty rough. I believe the quality was greatly improved. I did not do a source check. Anyone is welcome to challenge the accuracy or appropriateness of sources. Maybe dialing back the histrionics and offering reasonable suggestions for improving the article would be a positive step? Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:28, 10 October 2025 (UTC)
- Notified: Jason Rees, WikiProject Weather
I am nominating this for featured list removal because there's several typhoons that are left unsourced, especially the 2020s typhoons. According to Wikipedia:Featured list criteria, it seems like it fails at Number 3, part b; "Statements are sourced where they appear, and they provide inline citations if they contain any of the four kinds of material absolutely required to have citations." Unless the issue gets fixed, these unsourced claims are seriously hurting the FA status of this article. Hoguert (talk) 00:19, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- @Hoguert: Quick note, you tagged Jason Rees and WikiProject Weather as having been notified, but I don't see that you actually did notify them; please do to increase the chance that this list gets fixed. --PresN 12:02, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am aware of this FLC having seen it on my watchlist and will see what I can do in the coming days to bring it up to scratch.Jason Rees (talk) 16:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
- Update: I have done a lot of weeding on the List of retired Philippine typhoon names and this list today and am pleased to report that the death/damage totals from the 2020s are all sourced/referenced, while all retired names and intensity information is sourced. On the overall list in particular, the damage totals will need further work to incorporate death/damage totals from outside of the Philippines, but that's a job for another night.Jason Rees (talk) 02:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I will withdraw from this after the issues are addressed, and so far, you're doing a good job fixing the problems. Hoguert (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update - Over the last week or so, I have done more and more weeding on the Philippine list and now have all the Philippine death/damage totals from Reming (Durian) in 2006 sourced back to the NCDC. Some of these death/damage totals have already been incorporated into the overall article, while I plan on getting them into the main overall article over the next few days.Jason Rees (talk) 10:26, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- "The name Amuyao was meant to replace Malakas, but because PAGASA selected the name to replace Aghon, which was stricken off the naming list of 2024 as a local name, the name was then replaced by Amuyag." Still unsourced. Roy, Mireille, Rananim, Xangsane, Durian are unsourced. There are typhoons in the 1990s, 2000s, and Linfa in 2020 that don't have damage/death toll estimates Hoguert (talk) 11:00, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update - Over the last week or so, I have done more and more weeding on the Philippine list and now have all the Philippine death/damage totals from Reming (Durian) in 2006 sourced back to the NCDC. Some of these death/damage totals have already been incorporated into the overall article, while I plan on getting them into the main overall article over the next few days.Jason Rees (talk) 10:26, 3 October 2025 (UTC)
- I will withdraw from this after the issues are addressed, and so far, you're doing a good job fixing the problems. Hoguert (talk) 00:15, 2 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update: I have done a lot of weeding on the List of retired Philippine typhoon names and this list today and am pleased to report that the death/damage totals from the 2020s are all sourced/referenced, while all retired names and intensity information is sourced. On the overall list in particular, the damage totals will need further work to incorporate death/damage totals from outside of the Philippines, but that's a job for another night.Jason Rees (talk) 02:14, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
- I am aware of this FLC having seen it on my watchlist and will see what I can do in the coming days to bring it up to scratch.Jason Rees (talk) 16:37, 26 September 2025 (UTC)
@Hoguert: Patience is a virtue since as a part of the FLC, I am trying to ensure that all death/damage totals presented are sourced, accurate and do not include economic losses.Jason Rees (talk) 11:29, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- Update: I currently feel like I have brought the majority of the death/damage totals to a point where they are sourced, verifiable and more or less correct. Over the next few days, I will be going over the naming history to ensure it is correct.Jason Rees (talk) 12:13, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
