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Please do not nominate your user page (or subpages of it) for deletion here. Instead, add {{db-userreq}} at the top of any such page you no longer wish to keep; an administrator will then delete the page for you. See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion § G7 for more information.

Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

Filtered versions of the page are available at

Information on the process

What may be nominated for deletion here:

Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS:,^[a] Event: and the various Talk: namespaces
Userboxes, regardless of the namespace
File description pages when the file itself is hosted on Commons
Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XFD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Notes

^ The vast majority of pages in the MOS: namespace are redirects, which should be discussed at RfD. MfD is only applicable for the handful of its non-redirect pages.

Before nominating a page for deletion

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace	If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} if it is a userpage, or {{db-author}} or {{db-g7}} if it is a draft. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?	Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace	Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding `{{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~` to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}. Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} or {{subst:welcomeg}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first. Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion. User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion. Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages	Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{historical}} or redirecting it somewhere. Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages	It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{WikiProject status\|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable. WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{historical}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication. Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion	Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems. Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-g6\|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD	Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies

Wikipedia:Deletion policy – our deletion policy that describes how we delete things by consensus
Wikipedia:Deletion process – our guidelines on how to list anything for deletion
Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – a how-to guide whose protocols on discussion format and shorthands also apply here
Wikipedia:Project namespace – our guidelines on "Wikipedia" namespace pages
Wikipedia:User page – our guidelines on user pages and user subpages
Wikipedia:Userboxes – our guideline on userboxes

How to list pages for deletion

Shortcut

WP:MFDHOWTOWP:MFDHOWTO

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.

Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{mfd|1={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
for a second or subsequent nomination use {{mfdx|2nd}}

or

{{mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.

If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use {{subst:mfd-inline}} so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.

Use {{subst:mfd-inline|GroupName}} for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.

Please include in the edit summary the phrase
Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
Save the page

II.

Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
Insert this text:

{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.

Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
Please use an edit summary such as Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
Save the page.

III.

Add a line to MfD.

Follow this edit link and at the top of the list add a line:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".

Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
Save the page.
If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add

{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.

If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add
{{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~
to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as
Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions

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Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussions

Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

October 29, 2025

User:Over the topSOMME/sandbox

Draft:Sovereign State of Ironland (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User:Over the topSOMME/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

These two rejected submissions appear to be part of a loosely coordinated off-wiki campaign to create an article about a so-called micronation. They are now calling it the Sovereign State of Ironland because the title Ironland has been extended-confirmed protected both in article space and in draft space, Draft:Ironland.

Delete Both as nominator.

ECP SALT Draft:Sovereign State of Ironland as nominator. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:16, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Tottenham Hotspur F.C./to do

Stupid bizarre IP duck and refusal to speedy, this should be deleted WP:G6 and requested WP:G7, shouldn't need this process at all. It's no longer being used. Govvy (talk) 15:25, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this is a very clear case of WP:!G6, and there are simply too many non-trivial edits by others for it to qualify as WP:G7. It is however now at the correct venue for deletion. For now I offer no other opinion on the nomination. 204.111.137.106 (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, per request of the primary author. Toadspike [Talk] 16:57, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mark Historical if this once had a purpose and has served its purpose. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Minnow to nominator for a common error about G6. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 28, 2025

User:SMBFriss/sandbox

WP:COPIES: Draft that was copy-pasted to Warren Sarrell, and should then have been redirected there per WP:STALEDRAFT #5. Article was G11ed a few hours later, at which time that redirect should have been G8ed. Paradoctor (talk) 17:14, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Originator came, created this coprolite, and departed. The article was deleted as G11, and this can also go G11. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:39, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 27, 2025

Template:Nice job

See relevant report at ANI Whyiseverythingalreadyused (talk) 02:37, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this be at WP:TFD? 88.97.192.42 (talk) 09:26, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're right lol

Hold on while I go there Whyiseverythingalreadyused (talk) 16:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

nvm Whyiseverythingalreadyused (talk) 23:20, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The provision that userbox deletion nominations are discussed here at MFD even if the userbox is in template space can be confusing. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:24, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I don't really care where it is: Delete. Replacing neutral, community-endorsed tags with this thing ([1]) is little more than trolling. —Fortuna, imperatrix 17:57, 28 October 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Delete. this template absolutely makes no sense. Harringstars ᐸ Talk
Contribs 18:22, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Created for trolling purposes. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:24, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: do speedy deletes by overwhelming consensus at a discussion apply at MFD? Whyiseverythingalreadyused (talk) 00:01, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: ignoring all the glaring flaws, it just isn't formatted right. A text with an image to its right lacking a border just pisses me off. Babysharkb☩ss2 I am Thou, Thou art I 13:02, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: makes no sense and there aren't any good use cases that couldn't be conveyed by an existing barnstar or other award (although that is likely not the reason it was created). HurricaneZeta (T) (C) 16:24, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jf

What's the joke here? Ryanisgreat4444 (talk) 17:44, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: is there a Wikipedia regulation saying that jokes you find unfunny should be deleted? Whyiseverythingalreadyused (talk) 02:39, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep 1 - No reason given to delete. Robert McClenon (talk) 09:19, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. I don't see the joke either, but I don't see a reason to delete this either. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 09:23, 28 October 2025 (UTC) — This may have been a comment. Whyiseverythingalreadyused (talk) 23:59, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Seems to be some kind of one-off joke page that ran its course. It seems the only reason for keeping this is that it's "harmless". But it bugged someone enough to nominate it for deletion, which is reason enough to get rid of it. It's certainly not helping anyone even the slightest amount either, which is what MfD is for - removing unnecessary things. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:28, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: "I don't get it" is not valid deletion rationale. Many jokes are made on WP:April Fools, and we don't delete them just because someone didn't find them funny or because the event is over. Chess enjoyer (talk) 01:37, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:A Minecraft Movie (franchise)

Per WP:FILMSERIES, we only have film series articles for three or more films. Seeing as the second film is only slated for release in 2027, it will be a long time before this could be a potential article. --wooden superman 11:53, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NDRAFT. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:55, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NDRAFT. No real need to delete this immediately, we can let it run its course in draftspace where it'll either age away and be G13'd (the most likely outcome imo), or qualify and be good enough for mainspace eventually. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 22:06, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a draft in progress. Robert McClenon (talk) 09:16, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Drafts are deleted after a period of time anyway. If it is moved into mainspace while still being non-notable, that's when we have a problem. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:20, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Wicked (film collection)

This is a cut and paste with no attribution from this version. It was discussed at Talk:The Wicked Years#Merge Wicked (film franchise) into The Wicked Years that a two film series article is not appropriate per WP:FILMSERIES and content was merged accordingly to The Wicked Years. Therefore no benefit of this draft as article should NOT be expanded. --wooden superman 09:09, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a WP:RFORK of The Wicked Years per nom. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 22:08, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question - Is there any material in this draft that is not in The Wicked Years? Robert McClenon (talk) 09:15, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It should either be at The Wicked Years or at the individual film articles. Sophisticatedevening who made the merge should be able to confirm. --wooden superman 15:32, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Woodensuperman - Uhhhh not really this is just an unattributed copy/paste from Special:Permalink/1314140349 before I did the merge. Sophisticatedevening^(talk) 17:27, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
could we maybe make the article after for good comes out? Hurricanemaster089 (talk) 12:43, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, per WP:FILMSERIES we do not have film series articles for series with fewer than three films. --wooden superman 15:28, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 26, 2025

Draft:Khanabad Sanatorium

Promotional page, non-notable issue GreenRedFlag (talk) 19:12, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Drafts are not deleted for notability reasons. They are only deleted as G11 if they are completely promotional, and thi is not. Robert McClenon (talk) 09:06, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Drafts are not checked for notability or sanity. This draft also doesn't appear to be promotional, so it's ineligible for WP:G11. Chess enjoyer (talk) 01:45, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 25, 2025

Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License

This is a bit of a weird MFD, but I don't think the text of the GNU Free Documentation License is compatible with the CC BY-SA (unlike the text of the CC BY-SA which is itself licensed under the CC BY). Thus I don't think we can host a copy of the GFDL on wiki (although we can link to it off wiki for people to read). At the top of the page, it states "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed," which implies NonDerivative (and thus not compatible with CC BY-SA).

Since there are a large number of links to this page (over 50,000), I would suggest we blank this page and direct users to the actual text hosted on gnu.org, or redirect to Wikipedia:GFDL. Aasim (話す（はなす）) 16:19, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Overthinking things. Our content is GFDL-licenced so we must distribute a copy of the GFDL with it. No real chance of people being confused into thinking the text of the GFDL is CC-BY-SA. Stifle (talk) 16:29, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah that can also be an issue.

Could we maybe transwiki to Foundation wiki and then alter the copyright footer on Foundation wiki to say "unless otherwise noted, text is available..."

I wonder what else could be done to ensure a copy of the GFDL is available while making clear it is not available under the same license as the rest of the wiki. For example the MW software has bundled the GPL here. If there is a way to do something similar, maybe with a special page that has all the licenses, that would probably be better. Aasim (話す（はなす）) 16:53, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand, the text was uploaded before the Wikipedia:Licensing update cutoff, so copyright-wise there's no need to redact or revdel. Neutral on whether we should have the page here in the first place. Tenshi! (Talk page) 16:57, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A Wikipedia licensing question is very important to consider properly and is NOT appropriately dealt with by a one week MfD. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:41, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Then what might be the appropriate venue to discuss copyright of the text of the GFDL? Copyright problems?

If the license of the GFDL is GFDL before 2009, we can relicense it under CC BY-SA. But if not, then we should either transwiki the page or try to get the copyright footer hidden on license pages. Aasim (話す（はなす）) 17:06, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Has this been discussed - or even suggested - at WP:VPR? Are there any discussions or notices at Wikipedia talk:Copyrights or Wikipedia talk:Reusing Wikipedia content? Have WMF Legal been informed? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:38, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I'm not seeing any reason why this should be deleted. If anything, this should probably be marked as {{historical}}. 2A0E:1D47:9085:D200:3FE5:17C1:B5AA:61D9 (talk) 21:25, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: For context, c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:GFDL (English).ogg was allowed as one of the only non-free files on Commons. I think if we just have a big box at the top that says "GFDL is not licensed under CC-BY-SA" that should suffice. —Matrix _{ping me}^{when u reply} (t? - c) 11:38, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That may be acceptable, I am not sure though if it complies with wmf:Policy:Terms_of_Use#7._Licensing_of_Content. Probably under grandfather clause? Aasim (話す（はなす）) 00:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Laurent Antonoff/sandbox

The subject of this BLP has requested deletion. The appropriate VRT ticket is ticket:2025102410005778 where I have added notes for VRT agents. Please remember to courtesy blank the discussion after it is closed. —Matrix _{ping me}^{when u reply} (t? - c) 15:39, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete as per subject request. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:40, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is this here because of lack of proof that the subject is the user? It could be someone close, pretty close. I’d have deleted per WP:U1.

Delete per WP:BLPREQUEST, U1 and G7. SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:39, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:57, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This is someone's promotional resume anyways. So delete for being promo and WP:BLPREQUEST. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 16:19, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Xxavv

I attempt deletion for this autobiography through WP:G11 but this was declined. I am taking this to MfD to establish deletion for a different reason; this is an unsourced BLP. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:36, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as an unsourced biography of a living person. The Heymann criterion is for the originator, who has been notified, to add reliable sources within seven days. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:37, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: As an unsourced BLP. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above ---Lenticel ^(talk) 04:57, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 24, 2025

User:Wikisteveb4

User is attempting to sidestep this deletion discussion by moving the offending content onto their user page. Wikipedia is not a webhost for their fantasy games. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:28, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question for User:Wikisteveb4 - What is your reason for moving a large amount of content from a (now-blank) sandbox to your user page, and what is your reason for having a large amount of material about competition shows that appears to be either copied or modified from article space? You are an experienced editor; what are you trying to do? How is this contributing to the encyclopedia? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:18, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I request to close the deletion discussion; I have now eliminated all material previously on the sandbox. You have to understand I was unfamiliar with these guidelines I do not agree with. However, I did delete my thousands of hours worth of work off of my own pages so the issue shall be resolved. Wikisteveb4 (talk) 16:46, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Only if an administrator suppresses those last edits to remove the inappropriate material from the edit history, as we have had too many users try to sneak these items back in after "blanking" a page leading to the AFD to be withdrawn. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:58, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Is how the page is currently fine, it has been like this for months. Is there anything I need to do for this to be officially resolved? Wikisteveb4 (talk) 17:00, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Wikisteveb4, what would even be the point? 173.79.19.248 (talk) 11:47, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikisteveb4: There are alternative platforms you can use to host this content. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 19:02, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate you being the first one to try to help me on this dilemma. I genuinely did not know another platform but with those links, I am more enlightened. Essentially I need to copy paste the codes anywhere else. I am sorry for all of the confusion, I understand why this is occurring but am concerned with an overall lack of empathy as a user who has made 30,000 plus edit and created several full pages on this website. Wikisteveb4 (talk) 19:29, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note - now they're really circumventing things by moving it to their userpage at Simple English Wikipedia. It's their only edit on that wiki so far. CountryANDWestern (talk) 17:10, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That’s fine, simplewiki can deal with itself. 173.79.19.248 (talk) 11:46, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Suppress edits between 1318111040 and 1318562471: This will be a slog because there's >130 intermediate edits in this range, but the content in question was added and edited between these ranges pretty much exclusively. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 23:06, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Special:MergeHistory is also an option. It allows you to completely remove revisions from page history (as opposed to revdel/supress) by moving them somewhere else. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 23:49, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as less work for the closing admin than redacting 130 intermediate edits. Moving this to [[2]] is cross-wiki abuse. There is no need to try to compromise with the originator when they are gaming the system. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:52, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:The Walt Disney Company/Drafts

This is an unused and outdated maintenance subpage of a drafts collection that has not been edited since February 1, 2022, and is counterintuitive when Category:The Walt Disney Company drafts suffices as the means of navigation with less manual maintenance required to befallen upon editors. There is no worthwhile history to maintain because much of the relevant content is available in the applicable drafts, most of which have either been abandoned or published in the mainspace since the subpage's creation in 2019. — Trailblazer¹⁰¹🔥^{(discuss · contribs)} 03:49, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Historical Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The page has extensive history, related to the article and connected to new articles, and so should not be deleted. There is no required maintenance work. Do not delete project history without good reason. Feel free to add an archive tag, if you think that it will help. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User aa-0

I think it's ridiculous to have a template and category for people who "don't" understand some language. This could possibly used by thousands (or more) editors who are ignorant of a subject. It's not a criteria that is definitive for an editor's work on the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:11, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. At best, pointless, and potentially open to abuse. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:23, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seeking to delete innocuous things due to potential for abuse is a negative, nonproductive mindset, and should not be encouraged. Wait for actual evidence. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:10, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - It has been explained that this template is useful on a user page in the Afar Wikipedia, to inform others that they not only do not plan to edit the encyclopedia but will not understand any message that is added to their user talk page. So we should keep an en-0 userbox. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:47, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep per Robert McClenon it is clear that these can have some use, as users who edit globally may direct people to their English Wikipedia userpage through soft redirects if this is their primary, and there are cases where someone may edit a Wikipedia where they do not understand the language, for example to add images. Moreover, there is an entire set of these. See for example Template:User fr-0, so this is not an isolated oddball, on the contrary -0 variants are actually quite common. Maybe these are not that useful but if we are going to get rid of them it should be through a batch nomination or RFC not by listing a single arbitrary template in the set for deletion. 204.111.137.106 (talk) 04:33, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather assumed that this was just an example, and that we were discussing deleting all the '-0' templates, rather than just the Afar one (which was presumably selected as the first, alphabetically?). Perhaps Liz can clarify? AndyTheGrump (talk) 06:56, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, you sensed my meaning, Andy, I was thinking that all templates for "0" or ignorance of a language or any lack of knowledge were pretty much useless and ill-defined because they could possibly be used by thousands of editors. Even with editors explaining it here, I'm not sure what useful purpose it serves. Is this a special template for this one obscure language or is it used for all languages? If so, would it be acceptable to fill my User page with all of the languages I don't speak? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:20, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Then as a procedural matter all of those templates should have been tagged for deletion and their creators notified. But just checking some easy ones, Template:User es-0, Template:User de-0, and Template:User zh-0 are not currently tagged. If the procedural issues are remedied and the nomination is made clear I am willing to strike and reconsider, though Template:User en-0 should of course be considered separately. 204.111.137.106 (talk) 16:05, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There is logic to babel Userboxes all beginning from zero. The zeros have use. The set, 0,1,2,3,4,5,N is establish and should be left alone. -SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:06, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The 0 categories have niche use cases. For example, if I edited a ton of articles on Croatia but did not speak the language, putting it on my userpage would let other editors know. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 14:36, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep not completely pointless, it could be useful for someone who contributes to pages relating to the language but does not understand the language and does not plan on contributing to Afar Wikipedia. We have Template:User en-0 TruenoCity (talk) 23:57, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 23, 2025

User:Sofiad123/sandbox

2017 WP:RFORK of "Non-Stop" (Hamilton song), which originated from an unrelated 2023 draft. Paradoctor (talk) 23:12, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As the nominator says, this is a copy of a mainspace article. The originator came, created this, and went. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:47, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:59, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Softpretzel/sandbox

Unsourced BLP. Paradoctor (talk) 23:03, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - We should allow a reasonable amount of time for editors to provide the sources for biographies of living persons in work, but not five years. This is another case of an editor who came, left this coprolite, and departed. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:23, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unsourced BLP. SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:03, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 04:58, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Personal color analysis

Blatant AI slop, zero chance of ever being accepted into mainspace, yet declined for CSD G15. Author has been pasting identical copies of this exact same content across multiple different titles too. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 20:11, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Question for the nominator, User:Taking Out The Trash - What are specific indications that this draft is the work of artificial intelligence? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:25, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The tone and writing style is quite obviously the output of ChatGPT or an identical program/software. I utilize these tools for legitimate purposes often enough that I can recognize their styles, especially when it's this blatant. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 19:30, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AI-assisted, maybe, but I doubt it was blatantly written by ChatGPT; its editing history shows a natural incremental work, and I do not see any blantant WP:AISIGNS, just unencyclopedic essay-like writing. Ca ^{talk to me!} 03:59, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Minivet/sandbox

Yet another sandbox copy of List of presidents of the United States, again existing solely to concoct an alternate history timeline different from reality. This time, everything appears to stay on track until January 6, 2021, at which point DJT's presidency ends prematurely for reasons unspecified (though one could hazard a guess given the date), with him being followed by Mike Pence for two weeks until Biden's inauguration, and then posits that the presidency has been completely vacant since January of this year.
As always, sandbox is not a free playground to just write any science fiction (or wishful thinking) you want to for shits and giggles -- it's for working on real stuff that's meant to be returned to mainspace when you're done, which this obviously can't be.
And, of course, yet again, the creator left this in the real article's mainspace categories for public consumption. Bearcat (talk) 17:31, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Alternate histories are subtle misleading information and it is offensive to Wikipedia to have anywhere on Wikipedia. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:18, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine with the sandbox being blanked immediately. (I would blank it myself but this seems to be against policy when a deletion discussion has started?) I had assumed my user page's sandbox was more or less a free playground based on the name, and have now found the policy so I can act correctly in the future.

I definitely didn't intend it to be associated with the original page at any time. Is there a way to prevent that?

Minivet (talk) 18:16, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to prevent that?

Never let it have any association with Wikipedia, not in your sandbox, not in any namespace. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:19, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nomination. Also, this sandbox uses the names and images of living persons with information that is contrary to fact, which is a biographies of living persons violation. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:47, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Alt history stuff is probably better off in your own machine or online personal workspace. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:15, 24 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete, for obvious reasons. It really amazes me how much POTUS-related alt-history crap exists here. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 09:53, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Solarbird/sandbox

WP:RFORK, per special:diff/822752221: "added content taken from List of Avatar: The Last Airbender characters, see that page's history for attribution" Paradoctor (talk) 01:58, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for now, looks like a perfectly reasonable use of sandbox to develop content, don't think it should be considered a redundant fork. Will check with Solarbird to see if they have opinions. SarekOfVulcan (talk) 02:18, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Oh wow, I forgot about this. I know we moved it over here to work on it for some reason. But I can't remember why right now. I wasn't trying to make some weird fork, though - we had some specific working reason. So I'd prefer to keep it until I remember why. My memory is strange and I don't like deleting things when I don't know why I have them. Even if it's really old. Solarbird (talk) 03:47, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - This looks like a draft in progress. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:42, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

October 22, 2025

Talk:Sidemen/FAQ

The FAQ was created due to several editors, likely fans of the YouTube group, constantly attempting to create articles for group members Miniminter and Wroetoshaw around 2022 when the other five members (KSI, Vikkstar123, Zerkaa, TBJZL, and Behzinga) did. Around the time, articles on the two were consistently deleted or sent to the draftspace as they didn't meet notability guidelines. Now that both members have their own articles that have since met those guidelines, meaning that all seven Sidemen have their own individual articles, this one-question FAQ is no longer necessary. –WPA (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete agreed. Some useless trivia is that I started the article on Zerkaa in 2021 and I'm surprised it wasn't nominated for deletion as YouTuber pages often are. Sahaib (talk) 22:05, 22 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It is still true. Or Mark Historical. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:41, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Sahaib. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 09:51, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Old business

Everything below this point is old business; the 7-day review period that began 19:17, 22 October 2025 (UTC) ended today on 29 October 2025. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion below this marker may be closed at any time without further notice. Discussions that have already been closed will be removed from the page automatically by Legobot and need no further action.

October 21, 2025

Template:User Mixed race

(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.)

Salvio giuliano

06:12, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

First, you can be from another country ethnically and still not be mixed race - for example, your parents could be Irish, but you're brought up in Norway. Still white nonetheless. Second, it's of very niche use - there's a fixed German/Spanish flag. I feel like this template is kind of useless. jolielover♥talk 05:23, 14 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the user and help them introduce themself better. SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:09, 15 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Jolie, if you really want ask the maker of the template and ask if you can change the image, and the image is also depicting mixed race. But for me, I oppose. And even with your first explanation, they don't really even have to put the template. Nedia Wanna talk? Stalk me 18:38, 20 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will say, the different flags were to represent different places. Also, you can make different types of this template linked as a see also link. Furthermore, this would be my situation, making me mixed race and others with similar ways like this. Wikiediter2029 (talk) 20:25, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,

Salvio giuliano

06:12, 21 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The template conflates the concepts of race and nationality, as well as race and place of birth. Being born in one country and from another has nothing to do with being mixed race. --DB1729^talk 21:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per DB1729. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 09:42, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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