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Illini BasketballIllini Basketball

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Hi, so I stumbled upon the redirect Illini BasketballIllini Basketball while patrolling unreviewed ones and was wondering if you know what (if any) college basketball consensus there is for this sort of thing. Do we treat this as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to the men's team? Or should it be a dab/set index shared with the women's team like Duke basketball and Houston Cougars basketball? Left guide (talk) 05:23, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Left guide: I'm not aware of any consensus on this at the project level, or whether there's a wider WP consensus on topics in which "men's" might seem like the primary topic, but is arguably so from systemic bias.—Bagumba (talk) 05:57, 23 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox college football player

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In regards to your comments about the college coach infobox at WT:NFL, I'm not sure infobox college football player is even necessary anymore. If you look at Arch Manning, literally the only difference in display is the class and major parameters and those could just be added to the gridiron infobox where roster status and cflstatus is for pro players. Major isn't strictly necessary anyway since it always gets removed later, and no one cares to add it to the body. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 06:11, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiOriginal-9: See this; I was never convinced a separate one was needed. Perhaps WP:CCC. —Bagumba (talk) 06:45, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: Template:Infobox college football player says If a former college football player was a member of an NFL preseason or practice squad, but never played in a regular season NFL game, then the article about him should generally use this template. Dated. —Bagumba (talk) 08:59, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there was ever a discussion about that phrasing. Dirtlawyer just added that in himself. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9 I don't need a discussion for everything if it accurately reflects common practice. Just wondering if it ever did, and when this whole offseason squad asterisk became the football standard. —Bagumba (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The PS asterisk has been there since the 2000s. It's always been the standard. Dirtlawyer added in the above phrasing around 2015-ish. His hopes and dreams for the college template didn't pan out though. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:19, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9: You dreamcrusher lol. —Bagumba (talk) 17:36, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry DL, lol. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:37, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sport's team template color question

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How do I set a color to a sport's team template? ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 16:36, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@ReallyAmazingDude13: It probably varies by sport and template. Ask at the relevant WikiProject. I don't edit much w/ colors. Good luck. —Bagumba (talk) 16:51, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bagumba What WikiProject does Banana Ball? ReallyAmazingDude13 (talk) 17:00, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ReallyAmazingDude13: One option is to look at a page's talk page e.g. Talk:Banana Ball. —Bagumba (talk) 17:13, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Doug Martin (running back)

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On 26 October 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Doug Martin (running back), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know...

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... that Eshaunte Jones is a college basketball player, who de-committed from the Oregon State Beavers. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:37, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiOriginal-9: At least it doesnt say Kevin Love anymore.[1] Think of all the "notable" players the transfer portal creates coverage for now. —Bagumba (talk) 19:44, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think anyone has ever actually read Jones' article from cover to cover? It looks like someone from his high school made it 17 years ago. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:48, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiOriginal-9 Or even just the lead sentence? I took the bait and tweaked it.[2] —Bagumba (talk) 20:35, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Carol Davis (American football)

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On 29 October 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Carol Davis (American football), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 19:32, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guide to temporary accounts

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Hello, Bagumba. This message is being sent to remind you of significant upcoming changes regarding logged-out editing.

Starting 4 November, logged-out editors will no longer have their IP address publicly displayed. Instead, they will have a temporary account (TA) associated with their edits. Users with some extended rights like administrators and CheckUsers, as well as users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will still be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range.

How do temporary accounts work?

Editing from a temporary account
  • When a logged-out user completes an edit or a logged action for the first time, a cookie will be set in this user's browser and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created for them. This account's name will follow the pattern: ~2025-12345-67 (a tilde, year of creation, a number split into units of 5).
  • All subsequent actions by the temporary account user will be attributed to this username. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser.
  • A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. Users with the temporary account IP viewer (TAIV) user right will be able to see the underlying IP addresses.
  • As a measure against vandalism, there are two limitations on the creation of temporary accounts:
    • There has to be a minimum of 10 minutes between subsequent temporary account creations from the same IP (or /64 range in case of IPv6).
    • There can be a maximum of 6 temporary accounts created from an IP (or /64 range) within a period of 24 hours.

Temporary account IP viewer user right

How to enable IP Reveal

Impact for administrators

  • It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the autoblock option.
  • It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
  • Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this (see a video about IPContributions in a gallery below).

Rules about IP information disclosure

  • Publicizing an IP address gained through TAIV access is generally not allowed (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 previously edited as 192.0.2.1 or ~2025-12345-67's IP address is 192.0.2.1).
  • Publicly linking a TA to another TA is allowed if "reasonably believed to be necessary". (e.g. ~2025-12345-67 and ~2025-12345-68 are likely the same person, so I am counting their reverts together toward 3RR, but not Hey ~2025-12345-68, you did some good editing as ~2025-12345-67)
  • See Wikipedia:Temporary account IP viewer § What can and can't be said for more detailed guidelines.

Useful tools for patrollers

  • It is possible to view if a user has opted-in to view temporary account IPs via the User Info card, available in Preferences → Appearance → Advanced options → Tick Enable the user info card
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  • Special:IPContributions allows viewing all edits and temporary accounts connected to a specific IP address or IP range.
  • Similarly, Special:GlobalContributions supports global search for a given temporary account's activity.
  • The auto-reveal feature (see video below) allows users with the right permissions to automatically reveal all IP addresses for a limited time window.

Videos

  • How to use Special:IPContributions
  • How automatic IP reveal works
  • How to use IP Info
  • How to use User Info

Further information and discussion

Most of this message was written by Mz7 (source). Thanks, 🎃 SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 02:48, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:TOPRESENT

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Hi Bagumba, I noticed you reverted a couple of my recent edits to template documentation: [3], [4]. My edits were changing recommendations for text of the form "1970–present" to recommend the form "Since 1970" instead, in accordance with MOS:TOPRESENT. You reverted both, saying that there is no difference. I agree that they mean the same thing at the time they are written, but they age differently: the form "1970–present" makes explicit reference to the present (without saying when "present" is), while "Since 1970" does not make such a reference to the present. This means that "Since 1970" is a slightly better form for the purposes of MOS:DATED. Even if you don't agree that there is a distinction here, the Manual of Style does make such a distinction: it explicitly discourages the "1970–present" form and recommends the "Since 1970" form instead, at both WP:DATED and MOS:TOPRESENT. —Bkell (talk) 06:31, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bkell: Thanks for reaching out. There was a related discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Questions. Consider commenting there, where there is wider participation. Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 06:48, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks for the pointer! I'll comment there. —Bkell (talk) 06:57, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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