User talk:Armycot

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Happy editing! – LuniZunie ツ_(talk) 17:00, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jack Arbuthnot, Ph.D. (October 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Taking Out The Trash were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission appears to read more like a résumé than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, that provide secondary analysis of the subject's life in context. In contrast, résumés will tend to list individual accomplishments and rely on self-published sources, which might unduly focus on positive events and fail to properly balance their weight. Please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies by using independent, reliable sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Taking Out The Trash (talk) 17:00, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Well, that was fast. I have a question, since I apparently do not understand the submission process. I have a number of colleagues who have their professional histories and resumes published in Wikipedia. I simply wish to do the same before my life is over, for a variety of reason, including helping people find additional literature on selected important topics,as well as documenting what many academics have acknowledged was an important career, with many valuable contributions to the literature and to the courts, schools, and agencies that serve children. So, is there a different way or category for such things?

One of the reasons given for rejection was inadequate support from reliable sources. Again, I'm not sure I understand. All published articles (and the book) are in the sources cited. How else can they be verified? Granting agencies are cited. The sponsors of professional papers are cited. The sources of awards and honors are cited. Consulting agencies are cited. The cases of courtroom testimonies are cited. Etc. So, help me out here--how else are they to be verified?

I would value your response. Obviously I'm new to this and need some guidance. Armycot (talk) 17:15, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You have wp:mos styling issues first of all, and Wikipedia needs independent sources, especially for living people. See wp:blp – LuniZunie ツ_(talk) 17:17, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Armycot. I was also going to decline your draft, but @Taking Out The Trash beat me too it.

Fundamentally what you have written is a resume. Wikipedia does not host resumes. We host descriptive encyclopaedic articles that are only summaries of reliable published sources.

We also highly discourage autobiographical editing, please have a read of Wikipedia:Autobiography.

If you want to try again you will have to start completely from scratch. Delete the draft and gather some secondary sources that discuss you and your work in-depth, are from reliable, mainstream publications, and are not based off interviews with you. Then summarise the content of those sources in a dry, factual, neutral way using in-line citation to verify each piece of information.

Please also be wary of scammers who target new editors who are writing about themselves and offer to write an article in exchange for payment.

Here is a easy to understand guide to our most important policies: Wikipedia:Everything you need to know.

A guide to writing an article for the first time: Help:Your first article.

Let us know if you have further questions. qcne (talk) 17:21, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Armycot! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Taking Out The Trash (talk) 17:00, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just so I understand, if another person (presumably an academic) were to submit the same information it would be acceptable? Armycot (talk) 17:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the way that you submitted it, no because of wp:mos issues. Also it would still need independent sources. – LuniZunie ツ_(talk) 17:26, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Armycot No, it would have to be formatted and written to comply with our policies. If you or a colleague or a friend or someone totally unrelated to you crafted a biographic article about you that complied with all our policies and guidelines, that would be fine. But the current version of your draft would not be accepted. qcne (talk) 17:26, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, Armycot, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you created or edited was Draft:Jack_Arbuthnot,_Ph.D., which appears to be an article (or draft of an article) about yourself. Writing about yourself is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians.

As this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. We require individuals to meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable person to accept articles about them. A page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

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Thanks for your feedback. Obviously I'm new to this. So, I have a question. I note that a numbeer of my professsional colleagues (both those I know and those of whom I know) have entries which describe their career and accomplishments. Granted, I would not call these articles. So, what a re they, and how are they submitted? Armycot (talk) 17:18, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Armycot. I've just responded in some more detail to your reply above, but here I'll just describe briefly how Wikipedia works: we host articles about topics that meet our criteria for inclusion. The majority of these articles are written by people not associated with the topic. If your colleagues have articles about themselves on Wikipedia they were very likely not written by them, instead written by volunteer editors like me with an interest in the subject area. Your colleagues also do not own the article about them and are actually not permitted to edit it directly, as this is a conflict of interest. qcne (talk) 17:24, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I find this all to be very confusing. Thanks for the feedback. Armycot (talk) 17:31, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is very confusing and complicated for new editors. Let me know if you don't understand anything or have any questions and I will try my best to help. qcne (talk) 17:33, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your tolerance. I'll get back to you later. I'm off to northeast England to visit my 7-year-old grandson (who is counting the days, and now no doubt counting the hours). I feel very special to be so special. Armycot (talk) 21:44, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, my username (Armycot) comes from my father's early life when some of his high school buddies couldn't pronounce our last name (Arbuthnot), so they called him Armycot. I've not been in the army, though my son surprised me by joining up and became a Captain, a fire-control officer of a Patriot Missile battery on Okinawa, apparently just to prove to himself that he could do it. He's now a Roman studies archaeologist in England, his passion. Armycot (talk) 21:50, 17 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting! I studied archaeology for a little bit at the University of York which has some great roman history. Good luck with your trip. qcne (talk) 19:09, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

Interesting coincidence. Skye studied at Newcastle. He got his masters and then was halfway through his PhD dissertation when COVID hit, the libraries closed, and his time expired. He and his Geordie wife live in the Pennine Hills. We've gone to York several times (my first in 1969, long before he was born, or even thought of). A lovely town. Northumberland is so surprisingly different than most Americans' stereotypes about England. Armycot (talk) 19:49, 18 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, how wonderful, but I am sorry to hear about his PhD. I hope you enjoy visiting England again. qcne (talk) 11:10, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]