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The content of Transport InfoLine was merged into Transport for NSW on 20 August 2015. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

Merge proposal

I don't think they are one and the same, one is the ministry, the other is the agency which acts below it. 04:56, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not certain that the Ministry of Transport still exists. I know that years ago, it used to. If you go to the current organisational structure here there is no mention of the Ministry or the Department, only the agencies and sections involved in coordination, policy, regulation, planning, and the delivery of services. If someone can find a reference that the organisation still exists, I'm happy to remove merge request. Jherschel (talk) 09:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Transport Info

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge. Mqst north (talk) 15:15, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Transport InfoLine article has only NSW Government primary sources. It seems unusual that an organisation's phone number and website would be considered a separate entity to the organisation itself. Mqst north (talk) 22:03, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Against - It is a separate website from the Transport for NSW website and has a specific function which is quite different from the core function of Tranport for NSW.Fleet Lists (talk) 22:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many organisations have multiple websites, each with their own function. And I'm sure TFNSW would argue that customer service is its core function. Mqst north (talk) 22:40, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support merging. The separate article fails Wikipedia:Notability (web). This article needs more information about the services managed by TfNSW and a merge of Transport InfoLine would be a good starting point. Gareth (talk) 17:55, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge. Not significant enough to warrant stand alone article. Turingway (talk) 12:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Entities

In the "Entities" subsection, shouldn't the Transport Asset Manager of New South Wales be listed as well, especially if the Residual Transport Corporation is already listed? In any case, someone who knows how to make an organizational chart or even just how to indent to show how these entities relate to one another should do that. Criticalthinker (talk) 02:09, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the current legislation, the TAM is not listed as part of Transport for NSW. TAM was not part of Transport for NSW as it was a separate state-owned corporation prior to last year. Marcnut1996 (talk) 03:14, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, nothing is explicitly listed as part of Transport for NSW in that first section. And, in fact, multiple things are labeled in the legislation as "a NSW Government agency" such as Sydney Trains, Sydney Ferries, etc.--Criticalthinker (talk) 05:29, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, the next source will be from Transport for NSW annual reports. However, the most recent one is the one from last year when TAHE was still a state-owned corporation and classified as an "independent entity". We will need to wait a couple of weeks for this year's annual report and see if TAM is now an agency of TfNSW or not. Marcnut1996 (talk) 08:29, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The TfNSW website also has [1] and [2] but I think these are even more confusing. Also noticed, a new "NSW Motorways" agency which online sources say it started on 1 July 2025, so we will probably need to mention it in the article as well as an additional entity. Marcnut1996 (talk) 08:34, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Those last two - which are the most recent - actually strike me as the most clarifying. They seem to explicitly show TAM under the umbrella of TfNSW. Admittedly, ALL of these graphics are quite bad in showing the connection and structure of TfNSW. But TAM does very clearly appear to be an "entity" of TfNSW if even in a different way than TAHE. In fact, the article on TAM appears to imply that it's even less independent of TfNSW than TAHE was, as the agency has gone from having a functional board of directors to a simple advisory board.

In any case, what I'm kind of getting at is that TAM, however it is internally structure, is an entity of TfNSW, because the state Secretary of Transport has some authority over it. From TAM's own website:

"TAM will have similar functions to TAHE however TAM will determine its service delivery priorities in line with the Transport Minister’s direction and expectations. This will be established by a Statement of Expectations issued annually to TAM by the Transport Minister.

TAM will no longer have an operating licence but instead will be at the direction of the Transport Minister."

The change in structure/type:

"On 1 January 2025, TAHE transitioned from a State-Owned Corporation to a non-commercial Public Non-Financial Corporation (PNFC) and government agency known as TAM."

Criticalthinker (talk) 12:48, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]