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The line "Like Mezmerize, it debuted at No. 1 in the U.S., making System of a Down, along with The Beatles and rappers 2Pac and DMX, the only artists ever to have two studio albums debut at No. 1 in the same year." Should be updated to include Taylor Swift as she joined this list in 2020.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Swift_albums_discography

Maybe something like "Like Mezmerize, it debuted at No. 1 in the U.S., making System of a Down, along with The Beatles, rappers 2Pac and DMX, and Taylor Swift, the only artists ever to have two studio albums debut at No. 1 in the same year.

But instead of having this line be a history of all artists that have ever had two number one albums in the same year, it would probably be best to time bound it.

"Like Mezmerize, it debuted at No. 1 in the U.S. With this release, System of a Down joined The Beatles and rappers 2Pac and DMX as the fourth artist ever to have two studio albums debut at No. 1 in the same year." Csarkrasc (talk) 18:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Confusing request. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:39, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AlphaBetaGamma What's unclear about this request? -- ferret (talk) 00:46, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done with the second option to future proof. -- ferret (talk) 00:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Solid. I probably would have used "one of the only" to avoid the future problem, but yours is much cleaner and more precise. Stealthmouse (talk) 13:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Editing

I've added this article to my queue for the May GOCE Drive with Working status. I'll review the existing comments here as well as incorporate revision to address any future issues that are posted (while I'm still working on it, anyway).

Thanks. Stealthmouse (talk) 14:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Soil (Californian band) into System of a Down

Procedural close; article proposed for merging has been deleted. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:07, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Anything worth keeping and where a valid source can be found should be merged to the System of a Down article. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 20:00, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support limited merge if anything is even worth keeping. The Soil article appears to be based on uncited original research into primary sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Followup @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars Soil (Los Angeles band) already redirects to System of a Down. I suggest we WP:BOLDly redirect this page instead of trying to merge this unsourced content. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:01, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I do not object to the speedy deletion tag being placed on the article either. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 03:41, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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System of a Down's advocacy and activism regarding Armenia is relevant to their notability

MOS:CONTEXTBIO advises that ethnicity or previous nationalities should generally not be in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability. However, given the significant media coverage regarding System of a Down's activism and outspoken views on Armenia, this is a case where their identity as Armenian-Americans is sufficiently relevant to their notability. Examples below.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/14/1250973443/system-of-a-downs-serj-tankian-on-his-memoir-why-a-new-album-hasnt-come-since-20
- "Part of the band's mission was to educate a new generation about something that happened more than a century ago — the Armenian genocide."
- "I consider the awareness having to do with the Armenian genocide one of the band's largest non-musical legacies."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/mar/24/serj-tankian-system-of-a-down-armenia
- "For Tankian, whose outspoken political activism often animates his songwriting, seeking international recognition of the Armenian genocide has been a lifelong and personal campaign. On stage that night in Yerevan he told the story of his grandfather Stepan Haytayan, who was just five years old when he saw his father murdered in the atrocities; he later went blind from hunger. Between songs, Tankian railed against Barack Obama’s resistance to using the term “genocide” to describe the atrocities after taking office, before turning his ire on Armenia’s authoritarian president, Serzh Sargsyan. “We’ve come a long way, Armenia, but there’s still a lot of fucking work to do,” Tankian told the audience, before calling out the “institutional injustice” of Sargsyan’s administration and demanding the introduction of an “egalitarian civil society”."
- Last November, with fighting still continuing in Nagorno-Karabakh, System of a Down released a pair of singles to raise awareness of the conflict: Protect the Land and Genocidal Humanoidz. The band have a long tradition of putting their politics on record. They closed their 1998 self-titled debut album with the track PLUCK (Politically Lying, Unholy, Cowardly Killers), an explicit call for “recognition, restoration [and] reparation” in relation to the 1915 genocide. Writing that song was part of an oath Tankian made to his grandfather to “always work to have his history properly recognised by the country he died in, the United States”

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/watch-system-of-a-down-perform-first-ever-armenian-concert/
- "Armenian-born rockers System of a Down travelled to their homeland yesterday, performing in Armenia for their first time ever. The band had previously announced the concert as a tribute to the Armenian Genocide, which took place 100 years ago in 1915. All four of the band’s members are descended from survivors of the genocide, and while frontman Serj Tankian has performed in the country on solo tours, the group had never performed there together. That is, until last night, when the band’s “Wake Up The Souls” tour concluded with a stop at the Public Square in Yerevan, AM. Speaking about the show, Tankian said “Part of it is bringing attention to the fact that genocides are still happening, whether you use the word ‘genocide,’ ‘holocaust’ or ‘humanitarian catastrophe,’ none of that is changing. We want to be part of that change. We want the recognition of the first genocide of the 20th century to be a renewal of confidence that humanity can stop killing itself.”"

MossOnALog^Talk 22:00, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]