Talk:Slitheen

Expanding the article?

Um... sorry. Should I have left it, then? --khaosworks 21:48, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

See:- Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers. Tim! (talk) 13:30, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I don't think I did. I didn't say Energy was wrong for writing the article - I just expanded it. Ah, well. --khaosworks 18:42, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

hardly expanding when there is nothing of the original left. the edit comment did say he would be continuing with the article ... Tim! (talk) 21:31, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

And which PdTHOR already rewrote (along with erroneous information, like claiming an ICBM did the Slitheen in). I don't know - if Energy has an issue with that, perhaps he can take it up with me directly. Or not. --khaosworks 22:21, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

Hi...I am Energy and feel a bit guilty over having caused all this trouble. I don't mind, honestly: it's a wiki after all.-->Energy (talk) 07:42, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Humanoid?

Surely they're not humanoid? Large, green masses of living calcium with huge eyes, two-pronged claws and so on?-->Energy (talk) 05:41, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Hmm. Well, two arms, two legs, a head, a body, walk upright... that's humanoid by my standards. If you'd prefer, I'll change it to massive and bipedal. --khaosworks 06:20, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I think that would be better.-->Energy (talk) 12:38, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps there should be a classification system for aliens (Blobs, humanoids, plantoids (Triffids and Ents) etc). Yetis, Slitheen and the classic UFO entities would come under bipedal, non-humanoids.

Any parallels to be drawn with David Icke's reptile entities? Jackiespeel 5 July 2005 16:29 (UTC)

Calcium decay != bad breath

Bad breath is caused by different bacteria to those which contribute to tooth decay by dissolving calcium. I know the Doctor leaps to calcium decay in World War Three, but surely there's some way we can reword this so it's not misleading? -- Guybrush 10:18, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Add a note, since the Doctor has got his science wrong (again). :) --khaosworks 11:09, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

World War 3

The Slitheen are amasingly powerful family, but when you look close, they are very easy to kill. Remember when Michey uses viniger to kill the Slitheen inspector. "Citizens of planet Earth , we are facing a cross-species war. But we know the ememy's weakness! You can all help in the war effort, so arm yourselves with jars of pickeled onions!" Darkwarlock999

Fictional is obvious

Why insert "fictional" here? Extraterrestrial aliens are obviously, unmistakably fictional in a way that say the place names in William Faulkner's works are not. Who thinks otherwise? Consider the problem differently. Would it not be more informative to identify those elements of science fiction stories which are real but unknown to most readers as "real" rather than to say that a particular element is "fictional." Perhaps science fiction needs to be treated differenty in this respect. Just an idea. But then on the other hand I do see the value in imprisoning an interesting exception like sci-fi in a deathly embrace of a useless rule made for other genres. Flugku.

This is in answer to my following comment on his talk page: Please stop removing that phrase from the respective articles. It makes it sounds as if we're saying that these characters are real. The phrase makes it clearer, and should be there - your original placing of the additional "fictional" phrase in Slitheen was redundant once the fictional nature was established, that was why it was removed. See WP:POINT. --khaosworks 22:57, July 25, 2005 (UTC) --khaosworks 01:02, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Death penalty

One of the Raxacoricofallapatorian methods of execution is the lowering of the condemned into a cauldron of acetic acid, which is then heated to boiling. The acidity of the solution is formulated to dissolve the skin, allowing the internal organs to drop into the liquid while the condemned is still alive, resulting in a slow and painful death.

This method came from Boom Town, which Margaret stated. She was pleading for her life. She might have made up a gruesome death penalty to convince the Doctor that he should let her live. Should this really be in the article, as it may not be true? It's... Thelb4! 16:02, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to doubt her word, nor does the Doctor doubt it. The way it's performed and directed does not suggest deception, either. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 16:24, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Not canonical, I know, but it's confirmed in Doctor Who: Monsters and Villains. Daibhid C 16:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Slitheen group mind?

In the Aliens of London story the Slitheen seem to be 'connected' in some way. When one dies, the others can sense it. When one gets zapped, the others get zapped as well. Obviously, this isn't a group mind - partly I just thought my obvious misuse of the term in the heading would grab your attention ;) - but I don't know what to call it. Are there any sci-fi aficionados who can suggest a more appropriate term? I think this is notable, but I just can't put it into encyclopaedic writing. RobbieG 19:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

It's actually already in the article: "...can sense when one of their own dies." --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't spot that. What about the electricity thing? RobbieG 10:04, 17 June 2006 (UTC) No idea about the electricity, that probably had something to do with the compression fields, but is it worth noting that the Slitheen were going to replace the Ood in Satan Pit/Impossible Planet becase of a lack of budget? 'cause that group mind wold've worked for that too, and it's in Doctor Who: The Inside Story

Hatching

I seem to remember there being slightly more information about the nature of slitheen reproduction and family relations in Boom Town, is there anything missing here? Ammi 11:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Not really. "Margaret" talks about being forced to kill at an early age, and we see that they come from eggs and are kept in hatcheries. That's all in the first couple of paragraphs of the article. The only minor detail I can think of is that it is vaguely implied that the Raxicoricofallapatorians pick their children from the hatcheries rather than raise the ones they birth themselves (the Doctor seems to think that another, less criminal family will adopt the Margaret egg), but it's really an inference, and might be stretching it a bit into speculative. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 13:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Article as reads this moment: Raxacoricofallapatorians also know as CREEPYS have a greenish tint to their skin and they are marrying mo'nique.. so basically... see you at the wedding, and are eight feet tall with long forearms that end in powerful claws.

So, um... mo'nique? I don't know if this is relevant to the article or not, so I posted instead of brashly deleting it. 75.51.0.143 08:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Try refreshing - this was reverted several hours ago. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 09:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Picture in infobox

Why is there a Child Slitheen picture in the infobox? Wouldn't it make more sense to have an adult? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.48.236 (talk) 20:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I've just changed it!

--Skunk-Fu! (talk) 18:21, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Now I see that the image in the infobox is about to be deleted. This page really needs an image, though.

the message above, coutesey of T.Neo (talk) 12:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Slitheen should be moved to Raxacoricofallapatorian

As the Slitheen are simply a family, and races are really more suitable, especially seeing as we've seen the other family, Blathereen in both the novel The Monsters Inside and the Sarah Jane Adventures episode "The Gift", I think this page should definitely be moved to the title Raxacoricofallapatorian, and for Blathereen to be merged with it.
--BadWolfTV (talk) 22:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

While true, they are commonly referred to as 'Slitheen', and we use common names for article titles. — Edokter • Talk • 23:26, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, the most commonly used term is still Slitheen. Also, the characters in 'The Gift' are from an intermarriage of Slitheen-Blathereen, not simply Blathereen.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Edits Made

I've added a Production and Reception section to the article, among a few other small edits. I feel as though the appearances section could be trimmed in terms of the references to their cameo appearances, but I don't wish to remove it entirely for the time being.

Another thing is that while sourcing the article, the sources wound up below the infoboxes. I'm not sure how to fix that, so if a more experienced editor is capable of fixing that problem, I'd greatly appreciate it. Sorry for the inconvenience in advance. Pokelego999 (talk) 19:28, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

GA review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Slitheen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 15:46, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Olliefant (talk · contribs) 22:20, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Lead

• "They hail from the species known as Raxacoricofallapatorians" This wording seems off to me
• Bypass the series one redirect
• "episodes "Aliens of London" and "World War Three" Clarify that its a two parter and not two unrelated episodes
• Add alt text to lead image
• "The Slitheen were conceived to be appealing to children, resulting in the inclusion of the Slitheen farting while in disguise, as well as a large zipper on the skinsuits being included to allow children to mimic the motion of Slitheen emerging from their suits" every besides being designed to appeal to children seems too trival for inclusion in the lead
• I think that the lead could be condensed and there is a few trivial facts included

Addressed all of the above. I'm not sure which facts beyond the ones you wished for me to condense were trivial; could you clarify? Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:44, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

I condensed it somewhat Olliefant (she/her) 03:31, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Looks good, I'm happy with that. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:43, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Appearances

Doctor Who

• In that last paragraph I'd add some details on the ood and what they did in the story
• Final two paragraphs are unsourced

Spin-off media

• Unsourced
• Italicize "A Confusion of Angels"

The Sarah Jane Adventures

• Unsourced

Both this and the above should fall under WP:MOSPLOT, which states plot summary does not need to be cited. Given it's pretty bare and uncontroversial this should be fine as it is. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:45, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

Conception and development

Doctor Who

• Add alt text to both images
• Optionally, move one of the images to another section for diversity

The Sarah Jane Adventures

Looks fine

Reception and analysis

• "the Radio Times" drop the the. It's cleaner and also Radio Times doesn't go by "The Radio Times" anymore
• "The AV Club" -> "The A.V. Club"
• " an allegorized dramatization of the 9/11 conspiracy theory presented by Thierry Meyssan in the book L'Effroyable imposture" what conspiracy? Did the Slitheen do 9/11?

The text says it is an allegory for the theory proposed; what that theory is has been clarified. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:55, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

• Also depipe "9/11 conspiracy theory" per MOS:NOTBROKEN (side note "Doctor who character compared to 9/11 conspiracy would be a really funny dyk hook)
• "A physics paper for The University of Leicester calculated the force of the Slitheen's compression fields, which are used to help them fit in their skinsuits in universe" and? What did they find?

I mean they found the force. There's not really much more to say without just citing statistics, which I'm pretty sure is not recommended. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:55, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

• Addressed anything not addressed above. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 01:55, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

References

• Spot checks found nothing
• Ref 4 is live and should be marked as such
• Ref 7 is dead and should be marked as such
• Ref 7 is also missing the author
• Refs 13-15, and 20 are improperly formatted

Misc

• I'd add this as an external link
• "Slitheen" is written over one hundred times. Can a few of switched to "they"?
• Inconsistency weather the SJA appearances are in quotes or italicized

Addressed the above and the ref issues. I've cut down about twenty or so Slitheen mentions, but I can try to cut more if need be. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:44, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

I'm satisifed with the articles current state Olliefant (she/her) 03:48, 30 October 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.