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Founding - top level section focusing on history and persons from 2015-2016
Corporate structure - top level section focusing on evolving corporate structure
Capped for profit - subsection to discuss the transition to capped for profit
Microsoft partnership - subsection to discuss partnership
Firing of Altman - subsection moved here
Acquisitions - subsection to discuss companies acquired
Additional investment - subsection for funding rounds unrelated to the founding and the microsoft partnership
Technology - top level section for discussing the history of technological progress
Services - top level section prefer prose, make it somewhat historical with heavy excerpting
Models - subsection to make a distinction between the models and the actual services. You cannot by GPT4 but you can purchase an API service providing access to the model
Data law - top level section to discuss copyright, data deals, and other matters data and legal
Superintelligence - top level section to group discussion of this
I am possibly missing something and there may need to be additional subsections added but I think most of what does not fit in here is undue weight for having its own section or encyclopedic.
I think a "Corporate structure" makes sense, and it could also include existing content on the management. But the overall plan is so different from the current article that it would require a lot of work (and potentially to remove a lot of content). A few additional questions:
The contents of the history section would be split up into the applicable sections. On broader point, history sections are common on wikipedia out of what I think is fair to call laziness. The are added early to the article when the most important points are not clear and there is not enough content to make thematic sections. You will not see many "History" sections in articles on print encyclopedia. The internet encyclopedia makes these because the articles are written additively by many people rather than by a team of experts with a focused agenda and corpus of sources that they refine down to the article. These are not compelling reasons to keep history sections broadly speaking
From my reflection on this article I see the separation of Technology and Services as representative of the source documents. There are important, and different, messages to delivered to the reader around the release and explosion of ChatGPT as a service and the related, but chronologically and technically separated development of GPT3. Some of the sources are more about the development of the technology and will logically flow better together while others are about the development of the service.
I don't see why it would be "particularly notable" compared to other corporate investments, but I previously found it appropriate to mention in the lead section, being a significant fact about OpenAI. WeyerStudentOfAgrippa (talk) 14:29, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lead or not I don't have strong opinion on, but it should be in the article. Owning 49% of a company is a defining stake in the company that is one of the most important details about any company? Czarking0 (talk) 16:01, 27 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're right, that's important information, which would need better sourcing. The 49% seems accurate although not officially confirmed. The 10x cap looks more speculative, that may not be exactly 10x. Alenoach (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To summarize, Microsoft is entitled to some of OpenAI's for-profit gains up to a cap. Rumors say Microsoft gets 75% until it gets its money back, and then 49% up to the cap. Here is one potential source from FT, although it does not talk about the 75% like the one from The Verge (which is less reliable as it was published earlier). The issue here is that the details of the deal were not made public, the information seems to originate from anonymous sources. Alenoach (talk) 04:55, 28 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is a bit of a moot point now that they've restructured and Microsoft's stake has been revised to 27%, but CNBC reported today that under the previous structure Microsoft's stake was 32.5%. I'm not sure if this means 49% was never accurate but clearly something changed since it was first reported. Jamedeus (talk) 01:17, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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It appears that statement is currently outdated? Unfortunately I'm no lawyer and can't really warp my head around the complex non-profit, for-profit corp structure. It seems the recent restructure made that line outdated. However, I can't confirm for certain. I've added the recent info about restructure/for-profit to that passage, but not touch that statement. (At least, it seem like the non-profit portion is going to be called OpenAI Foundation. So OpenAI, Inc isn't part of the picture?) Anothercat613 (talk) 18:08, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding from the new sources today is that the non-profit is still "technically" in control, but it's somewhat unclear what that will mean going forward. Per NYT the non-profit appoints the board of directors for the for-profit and can replace them at any time. But given that the non-profit board members will also serve on the for-profit board I can see why some are questioning its independence (ie if I'm on both boards am I really going to reign myself in?).
This is all just speculation for now though, given that RS are currently reporting that the non-profit remains in control I think we need to stick with that. I'm sure much will be written about how much power the non-profit actually has once the new structure is in full effect. Jamedeus (talk) 01:10, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
At the time I'm writing this, the article includes five em dashes that aren't in quoted text or references. Does Wikipedia have a policy on the use of em dashes in AI-related articles, given that they may give the impression that parts of the text were composed by an AI? Gildir (talk) 11:05, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no policy against em-dash. They have long been used on wikipedia and many news sources before GenAI existed. That how the GenAI learned to use em-dash. Czarking0 (talk) 15:34, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Change "Brockman met with Yoshua Bengio, one of the "founding fathers" of deep learning, and drew up a list great AI researchers" to "Brockman met with Yoshua Bengio, one of the "founding fathers" of deep learning, and drew up a list of great AI researchers ". Ghitchens12 (talk) 15:56, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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