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"Title" of Muhammad

This is a minor issue, but if the infobox really requires a "title" for the leader (i.e. here, the leader being Muhammad), it would probably be "the Prophet" or "the Prophet of God", if we were to follow the wording of English secondary sources (e.g. [1], [2]). But as Names and titles of Muhammad shows, he also had many other titles attested in Muslim religious or historical texts, so I'm not sure that picking any "title" to include here is really productive. In any case, leaving this note here in case it needs further discussion. R Prazeres (talk) 23:13, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The text of the article had no source and contained unsourced statements. The new text is based on Islamic sources that are affiliated with Shiite religious scholars in Iran.

The text of the article had no source and contained unsourced statements. The new text is based on Islamic sources that are affiliated with Shiite religious scholars in Iran. صابر حامدی (talk) 19:51, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sheikh Hassan Saffar, a Saudi cleric, gave a speech on the Prophetic Leadership Approach, or the Prophet's Leadership Approach, and in that speech he said that, according to Shiite and Sunni religious sources, the title of the Prophet was the Messenger of God, and the title of the Prophet of Islam during the ten years he ruled was Qa'id or Qa'id al-Mu'minin.

Sheikh Hassan Saffar, a Saudi cleric, gave a speech on the Prophetic Leadership Approach, or the Prophet's Leadership Approach, and in that speech he said that, according to Shiite and Sunni religious sources, the title of the Prophet was the Messenger of God, and the title of the Prophet of Islam during the ten years he ruled was Qa'id or Qa'id al-Mu'minin. صابر حامدی (talk) 20:02, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please review Wikipedia:Reliable sources. A sheikh's speech or other religious sermon is not a reliable source, especially for Wikipedia's purposes. Also please stop removing the maintenance template about citations at the top of the page, which has nothing to do with this issue. R Prazeres (talk) 20:36, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Map caption

@37.39.209.4: use the talk page here to discuss problems. On Wikipedia, we do not resolve problems by repeating reverted edits over and over (please see the messages at User talk:37.39.209.4). Both the map and the caption are based on a reliable source which you can see here (on p.27). Any further changes would required additional and equally reliable secondary sources in order to follow Wikipedia's core principles of Verifiability and No original research. Please base your edits and comments on those principles. R Prazeres (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Map isn't Accurate or Academic

On Top of the State being shown much smaller than it actually was, the location of Taif is a huge fatal mistake as it's shown too far from Mecca than it actually was/is. 37.231.222.129 (talk) 12:52, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Taif is indeed too far south, but this is a minor adjustment needed. As for the rest of the information, it's literally from an academic source, as cited in the file description. R Prazeres (talk) 14:48, 26 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You made yourself a literal joke by claiming that this clearly inaccurate map based on "Acadamic" sources but not using any of your annoying and disruptive editing powers to fix actual and literal myths such the Attack on Fatima page and sometimes even editing back such Myths like Uthman beating up Ibn Masud even if it's isn't backed by any reilable or academic sources by your own standards in these pages. 37.231.222.129 (talk) 20:47, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]